DOI: 10.25592/dgs.corpus-4.0-text-1246566

1246566 (fra13): Diskussionsthemen

Themen Familie und Verwandte: Bilinguale Erziehung; Gesellschaft: Inklusion; Kommunikation: Ablesen; Kommunikation: Kommunikation mit Hörenden; Politik: Integration; Schule und Unterricht; Schule und Unterricht: Bilinguale Erziehung; Schule und Unterricht: Inklusion; Schule und Unterricht: Integration

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First of all I have to say that I used to be hard of hearing myself.
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FIRST1Azuerst
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$GEST-OFF1^*mal
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SELF1Aselbst
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PAST-OR-BACK-THEN1*[MG]
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HARD-OF-HEARING1schwerhörig
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$GEST-OFF1^*
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I could imagine an integrative school.
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CAN2A*kann
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INTEGRATION1intergra{tion}
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SCHOOL2Hschule
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$GEST-OFF1^[MG]
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What they say in the film is that it is very modern at the moment to teach deaf and hearing students together.
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BUT1*aber
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QUOTATION-MARKS2[MG]
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$INDEX1*
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TO-SAY3*sagt
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TODAY1*heute
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MODERN1D*modern
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THERE1
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DEAF1A[MG]
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WITH1Amit
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HEARING1Ahörend
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TOGETHER5*zusammen
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INTEGRATION1
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I do have to say that I personally don’t think that’s a good thing.
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I1
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OWN1A^für mich
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I1
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TO-SAY1*sagt
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$GEST-NM-SHAKE-HEAD1^[MG]
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NOT1*nicht
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GOOD1gut
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And that’s because of the following reasons:
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REASON4Agrund
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TO-WATCH-OUT3*
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If the students only have to copy whatever is written on the board in an integrative school, that might work out well.
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THERE1*
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TOGETHER1B*zusammen
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SCHOOL1A*schule
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TO-LEARN1*lernen
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TO-TAKE1A^abschreiben
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TO-WRITE1A
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OKAY3*okay
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But just imagine a discussion, that happens in school classes.
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BUT1aber
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DISCUSSION1A*diskussion
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INCLUSIVE1^im
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CLASS9
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ALSO3A*auch
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$GEST-OFF1^
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Or when the teacher quizzes the students.
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TO-MEMORISE1^wissen
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WHAT1A*was
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TO-KNOW-STH2Aweißt
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YOU1du
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WHAT1A*was
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TO-KNOW-STH2Aweißt
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YOU1*du
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COME-HERE1*
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Would the deaf student be able to communicate well or would there be problems?
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DEAF1Agehörlos
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$INDEX1
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COMMUNICATION1A*
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LIKE-HOW1Awie
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DEFICIENCY-IN-COMMUNICATION1*
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DEFICIENCY-IN-COMMUNICATION1
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Or, hm, the teacher just talks and talks, so the deaf student misses everything.
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OR6Aoder
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BLACKBOARD1A*
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$ORAL^lehrer
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TO-SPEAK6*[MG]
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$INDEX1
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TO-MISS-STH1B*[MG]
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If they keep asking whenever they don’t understand something, it’s very strenuous for the teacher, always taking extra care of that.
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TO-STOP2[MG]
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NOT3A*[MG]
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TO-UNDERSTAND1*verstanden
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TROUBLE1[MG]
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ON-PERSON1
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Deaf people need more time; hearing people learn a lot just by listening, but that doesn’t work for deaf people.
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ALSO1Aauch
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DEAF1Agehörlos
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TO-NEED1*braucht
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TIME1zeit
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HEARING1A*hörend
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PERCEPTION1^*[MG]
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MEASURE7A^*[MG]
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DEAF1Agehörlos
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NO1A[MG]
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In my personal opinion, I think deaf schools should remain.
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I1ich
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MY1mein
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OPINION1Ameine
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DEAF1A[MG]
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SCHOOL2H*schule
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SHOULD1soll
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TO-STAY2bleiben
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And the hard of hearing schools should remain as well, the two should be able to stay together.
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HARD-OF-HEARING1*schwerhörig
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SHOULD1*soll soll
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TO-STAY2bleiben
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TOGETHER1A*zusammen
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TOGETHER-GROUP1*
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Concerning the CI, I don’t really care.
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CI1*[MG]
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I1[MG]
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NO3B^*egal
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What’s your opinion?
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And/
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TO-GIVE2^und
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$GEST-OFF1^*
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$GEST-OFF1^*
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And my opinion/
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AND2A*und
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I1ich
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OPINION1Ameine
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Well, you’ve already said a few things about integrative schools.
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YOU1du
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$ORAL^hast
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TO-SPEAK1Agesprochen
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OVER-OR-ABOUT1*über
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INTEGRATION1integrationsschule
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SCHOOL1A*
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I do believe that integration has good aspects, deaf and hearing people come together.
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I1ich
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OPINION1A*meine
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PART1Bzum teil
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GOOD1auch gut
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DEAF1A*gehörlose
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AND2A*und
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HEARING1Ahörend
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INTEGRATION1^zusammen
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And it doesn’t matter if they spend two or three years together at school.
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IF1ob
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WHATEVER3egal
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YEAR1B*zwei
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YEAR1B*drei
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YEAR1B*jahre
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SCHOOL2Hschule
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INTEGRATION1
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TO-CHANGE2C^*miteinander
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But I have to agree on some points, it is questionable whether a teacher would manage to cope with hearing and deaf students.
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RIGHT-OR-AGREED1A*stimmt
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PART1Ateil
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TO-SAY1^ob
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$NUM-ONE-TO-TEN1A:2d*zwei
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LOST-HEARING1gehörlos
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INSECURE1unsicher
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However, when I think of the future, it could make life better.
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$GEST-OFF1^aber
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I1ich
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TO-THINK1Adenke
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FUTURE1A*zukunft
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CAN2B*könnte
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TO-LIVE1C*leben
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Hearing people would get to know deaf people earlier if they went to school together.
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HEARING1Ahörend
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ALREADY1A*schon
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TO-KNOW-STH-OR-SB1Akenn
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PAST-OR-BACK-THEN2*früher
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DEAF1Agehörlos
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INTEGRATION1inte{gration} im leben
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EXPERIENCE1A*erlebt
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Hm, well/$GEST-NM^[MG]
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$GEST-ATTENTION1^
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Do you think integration should definitely occur? Could you imagine going to a hearing school yourself?
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Well, I do believe that deaf people should be integrated with hearing people, but not all the time.
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BUT1*aber
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I1ich
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OPINION1Ameine
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I1ich
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HEARING1A^gehörlos
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HEARING1A*hörende
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TO-JOIN1*
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BUT1*aber
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NOT5*nicht
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WHOLE1A*ganz
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TIME7C*
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$GEST-OFF1^
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I don’t know for how long, a year maybe.
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$GEST-OFF1^[MG]But that would mean an incredibly exhausting effort for deaf people, lipreading all the time, right?
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$NUM-ONE-TO-TEN1A:1d
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Oh, well/
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$GEST-ATTENTION1^*
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It’d be a hard time, wouldn’t it?
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Well, but shouldn’t you learn reading the hearing people’s lips because of that?
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$GEST-OFF1^*aber
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HEARING1Ahörend
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SHOULD1soll man
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$ORAL^nicht
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TO-LEARN1*lernen
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TO-READ-OFF1*ablesen
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NO3B^
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But it can be very difficult, let me give you an example.
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TO-STOP2
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SIGNED-GERMAN1*
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HEAVY1Aschwer
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EXAMPLE2beispiel
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There are still a lot of deaf people that go to deaf schools.
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TODAY3heute
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$NUM-ONE-TO-TEN1A:1ein
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DEAF1Agehörlos
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SCHOOL1Aschule
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TO-PUT-IN-CARE1*
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Not everywhere in Germany, but there are still a few.
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BUT1*
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NOT3A*nicht
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EVERYWHERE1*überall deutschland
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BUT1*
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THERE-IS3*gibt
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LOCATION3*
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It’s partly still strictly forbidden to use sign language in some of those schools, the lessons are held completely orally.
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PARTLY1*teilweise
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SOMETIMES2manchmal
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STILL1A*noch
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TO-SIGN1G*gebärdensprache
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PROHIBITED1*verboten
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ORAL1oral
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The students have to learn everything through lipreading.
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TO-LEARN1*lernen
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TO-READ-OFF1*[MG]
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It wouldn’t be a problem for me.
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I1selbst
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$GEST-NM-TO-SHRUG1^
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I1kein
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PROBLEM2A*problem
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I1
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But what about the people who can hear absolutely nothing?
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BUT1aber
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ALL2A
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HEARING1A*hören
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NOT1*nicht
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$GEST-NM-SHAKE-HEAD1^
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They’ll only acquire around 20% of the knowledge.
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THERE1
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TO-KNOW-STH2A*wissen
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COGNITION2A^aufbauen
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AVERAGE1Cdurchschnitt
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$NUM-TENS1:2d*zwanzig
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PERCENT6prozent
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80% of the content goes completely over their heads, they have no way of getting it.
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$NUM-TENS1:8d*achtzig
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DIFFERENCE3^*prozent
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TO-MISS-STH1B*[MG]
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$INDEX1kann nicht
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PERCEPTION1^*mitbekommen
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They’ll understand only bits and pieces here and there.
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HALF6*halb halb halb halb
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ATTENTION1*
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There’s something else/
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PLUS1plus
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Firstly, hearing people can definitely learn sign language from deaf people.
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$GEST-OFF1^*
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HEARING1A*hörend
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CAN2B*kann
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FROM-OR-BY-OR-OF2*von
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DEAF1A*
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TO-LEARN1[MG]
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LANGUAGE4^gebärdensprache
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$LIST1:1of1erste
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They can understand what deaf people are like.
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CAN1können
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TO-KNOW-STH2A*
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TO-UNDERSTAND1verstehen
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DEAF1A
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LIKE-THIS1A*so
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Maybe one would be able to be good friends with hearing people then, as well.
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MAYBE1*vielleicht
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GOOD1*auch
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CAN2Akann
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WITH1Amit
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HEARING1A*hörend
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$GEST-OFF1^[MG]
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FRIEND4freundschaft
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THIS-AND-THAT1[MG]
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$GEST-OFF1^
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But even though, there are always problems.
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NEVERTHELESS1*trotzdem
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PROBLEM2A*problem
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ALWAYS4A*immer
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PRESENT-OR-HERE1*da
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Especially, and that’s essential, with communication.
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MAINLY1Bvor allem
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IMPORTANT1wichtig
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COMMUNICATION1A*kommunikation
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ATTENTION1*
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An example.
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SAME2A*
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EXAMPLE2zum beispiel
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Two grown ups have a relationship, one person is hearing, the other is deaf.
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ADULTS1B*erwachsene
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HEARING1A*
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DEAF1A[MG]
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HEARING1A*hörende
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BOYFRIEND-GIRLFRIEND1*
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Do you think everything just works without any conflict? Probably not.
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ALWAYS4A*immer
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FOR1*
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$GEST-NM-SHAKE-HEAD1^
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It is often the case that the deaf person has their deaf friends and the hearing person has their hearing friends.
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OFTEN1B*oft
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FRIEND4freunde
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PRESENT-OR-HERE1da
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FRIEND4*freunde
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HEARING1Ahörende
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BOYFRIEND-GIRLFRIEND1*freunde
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For a birthday celebrations, of course you also invite your hearing friends.
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IF-OR-WHEN1A*wenn
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BIRTHDAY20A*geburtstag
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TO-CELEBRATE1[MG]
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TO-INVITE2einladen
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If they start talking excitedly among each other, the deaf person is excluded.
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TO-SPEAK2*[MG]
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One would ask a short question on what the conversation is about.
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TO-LET-KNOW1A[MG]
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WHAT1B*
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WHAT-DID-YOU-SAY1*[MG]
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TO-TELL3A*[MG]
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WHAT1Bwas
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PLEASE3bitte
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WHAT1B[MG]
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But the answer would be, “Oh leave it, I’ll tell you later!”
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MOMENT2[MG]
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LATER3*später
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LATER3später
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So one just stands there stupidly, waiting until the group has finished talking.
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TO-SIGN1D*
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TO-SPEAK2[MG]
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DONE1A
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LAST1B^schluss
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One would ask again what they were talking about.THEN1C*dann
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TO-LET-KNOW1A^*
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$GEST^
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TO-SIGN1E^*erzähl
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One would get a short summary of the topics.$GEST^
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If one would’ve wanted to say something on a certain topic, it’s obviously already too late.
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TO-SAY1*sagen
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True.$GEST-OFF1^*
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RIGHT-OR-AGREED2stimmt
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LATE1*zu spät
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You and I, the two of us, we experience that a lot, when going to different events.
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$GEST-OFF1^*aber
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YOU1du
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NEAR1A*beim
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EVENT1veranstaltung
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THIS-AND-THAT1^egal
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TO-VISIT-OR-TO-ATTEND1A*besuch
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The hearing people talk for a long time.
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HEARING1A*hörende
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TALK2F*unterhalten
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LONG-TEMPORAL4A*lang
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If you ask about it, what happens is exactly what you just talked about.
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YOU1*du
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TO-SAY1sagst
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MOMENT2*moment
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RIGHT-OR-AGREED2stimmt
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You only get a signed answer at the very end of the conversation, and it’s extremely short.
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DONE1A*fertig
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I2[MG]
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TO-LET-KNOW1A*
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SHORT2*kur{z}
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But the conversation was really long.
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BEFOREHAND1A*vorher
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TO-SIGN1G*[MG]
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LONG-TEMPORAL4Alang
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Why is the summary for me that short then? Is it really true, or not?
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I1*für mich
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SHORT2*kurz
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I2*[MG]
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$GEST-OFF1^[MG]
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IF4*ob
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RIGHT-OR-AGREED2stimmt
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$GEST-OFF1^[MG]
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I can’t really comprehend that.
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TO-COMPREHEND1begrei{fen}
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$GEST-OFF1^
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Yes. Refers back to integrative schools, stating that there would be an interpreter for two or more deaf students. Asks what they think about this development.
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There should be a second teacher.
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TEACHER1lehrer
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Oh well, but I would like to mention a possibility that is already being used.
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$GEST-OFF1^[MG]
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ATTENTION1*[MG]
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EXAMPLE2beispiel
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TODAY2*heute
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There are some schools where there is a teacher holding oral lessons, and an additional teacher.
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EXAMPLE1zum beispiel
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$PRODlehrer
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SELF1A*selbst
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ORAL1*oral
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TO-SPEAK5A*[MG]
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$NUM-ONE-TO-TEN1A:1d*
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THERE-IS3*gibt
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$NUM-ONE-TO-TEN1A:1d*auch
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$PRODlehrer
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It hasn’t been established everywhere yet.
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ALL1A*alle
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SOLID1*fest
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Sometimes this, sometimes that, it’s still in its trial phase.
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PART1A*teil teil
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LIKE3A*wie
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CURIOUS2^*probezeit
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The additional teacher is sometimes a teacher for the deaf and therefore knows signing.$PROD
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PART1B*teilweise
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DEAF1Agehörlosenlehrer
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SIGN-LANGUAGE1A*gebärdensprache
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ANYWAY1*sowieso
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$GEST-OFF1^
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That means the two of them work together.
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COHERENCE1A^*zusammenarbeit
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TO-WORK1*
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One teacher speaks, the other one transfers the content into sign language for the deaf students.
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COHERENCE1A^*
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TO-SIGN1G*
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TO-SPEAK5A[MG]
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FOR1*für
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DEAF1Agehörlos
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TO-SIGN1A*[MG]
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It has to happen simultaneously, basically at the same time, so that nobody is too far ahead.
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EQUAL1A^muss
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APPROXIMATELY3ungefähr
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EQUAL2*
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COMPARISON1A*
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And now I will say something about the third example.
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ATTENTION1*
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$LIST1:3of3d
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EXAMPLE2beispiel
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At those other integrative schools, one would have one, maybe two, three or more teachers that would all need to have interpreters with them.
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OUTDOORS2^*anderen
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INTEGRATION1integration
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$LIST1:3of3ddrei
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$GEST-OFF1^*lehrer
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INTERPRETER1*dolmetscher
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$NUM-ONE-TO-TEN1A:3dIN-ADDITION1*[MG]
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Would that work just as well?
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$GEST-OFF1^
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$ORAL^ob
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TO-ACCOMPLISH1Aschafft
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EQUAL1A*gleich
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The first problem is that it’s also a financial question.
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PROBLEM2A*problem
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WHY10B*warum
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TO-GIVE2^*auf
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QUESTION1frage
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GOOD1*ist
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TO-COST2Akostenfrage
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QUESTION1
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Would a city be able to pay for all that?
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CITY2*stadt
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CAN2Bkann
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PROCEEDING1A^*alles
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EVERYTHING1A*
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TO-PAY8Bbezahlen
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I don’t really think so.
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$GEST^
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Nowadays, the state saves money wherever it can.
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TODAY1*heute
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ALREADY1Aschon
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TO-SAVE2sparmaßnahmen sparen
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And what about the level of education?
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TO-COME1^*und
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WHAT-DOES-IT-LOOK-LIKE1*wie sieht aus
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TETRAGON1^*bildungsstand
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STATUS-OR-POSITION1
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A lot of people don’t agree with where the education is at right now.
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MUCH6*viel
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TETRAGON1^*bildungsstand
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TO-SUPPORT1Aunterstützt nicht
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Germany only ranks 34th in Europe.
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GERMAN1deutschland
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COUNTRY1A*
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ROUND-BALL1^europa
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$INDEX1deutsch
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$NUM-ONE-TO-TEN1A:4*vierunddreißig
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PLACE9*platz
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That’s strange.WEIRD-STRANGE1*[MG]
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That placement within the Programme for International Student Assessment also means that Germany has to put in some effort to work itself up.
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$ALPHA1:I-Apisa
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EXHAUSTING3anstrengend
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HIGH3A*höher stellen
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The deaf people can’t keep up with that, they get left behind.
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DEAF1Agehörlos
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DONT-ACCOMPLISH1*schafft
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COHERENCE1A^mit
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CAN1*
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I think that the usual separation is better.
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USUAL1*normal
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BETTER1besser
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TO-SEPARATE1Agetrennt
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Do you think a separation at school would be better because of the sign language?
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The best thing for deaf people is to have their own, separate school.
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BEST1beste
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GOOD1ist
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$INDEX1*für
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DEAF1A*gehörlos
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TO-SEPARATE1C*getrennt
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TO-BELONG1^*eigene
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SCHOOL2H*schule
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TO-PUT-LOCATION1^*
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But we need more qualified teachers with a better knowledge of sign language, so they can convey a higher level of education through signing.
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BUT1*aber
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HIGH3Bhohe
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TO-KNOW-STH2B^*qualifizierte
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TEACHER1lehrer
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WITH1Amit
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SIGN-LANGUAGE1Agebärdensprache
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AND2A*und
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FOR1*dafür
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HIGH3Bhoch
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TO-KNOW-STH2A*bildung
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TO-EXPLAIN1[MG]
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TO-SIGN1A*[MG]
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TO-EXPLAIN1[MG]
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With/
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WITH1Amit
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TO-KNOW-STH2A*
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$LIST1:1of1d*
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Of course it doesn’t work without mouthing.OF-COURSE1Aselbstverständlich
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WITHOUT1Bohne
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ORAL2*[MG]
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CAN1*
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Spoken language should accompany and complete the lessons.
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TO-LINK1A^zusammen
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WITH1A
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MOUTH1A^*laut{sprach}begleitend
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TO-ACCOMPANY2*
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Because the students have to manage by themselves after leaving school, as well.
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REASON4Agrund
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SELF1A*selbst
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SCHOOL1A*schule
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TO-DISMISS3*entlassen
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MUST1*muss
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SELF3selbst
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TO-DIVIDE-IN1B^zurecht
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TO-FIND1Afinden
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Outside in the real world, you move within a hearing society.
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TO-LIVE1C*leben
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TO-PUT-FROM-TO1A^*CIRCLE2*
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HEARING1Ahörende
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TO-PUT-FROM-TO1A^*CIRCLE2*gesellschaft
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At work, for example.
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$GEST-OFF1^[MG]
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TO-WORK1arbeit
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$GEST-OFF1^*
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That’s a part of it, sadly.
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TO-BELONG-TO1gehört dazu
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OF-COURSE1Aselbstverständlich
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UNFORTUNATELY1A*leider
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$GEST-OFF1^*
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Because the hearing world is huge, and the deaf world tiny in comparison.
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BECAUSE1weil
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$GEST-OFF1^*
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HEARING1Ahörende
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$ORAL^welt
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BIG3Bgroß
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DEAF1Agehörlos
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COMMUNITY1A*klein
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But everyone has to try to switch between the two.
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BUT1*ab{er}
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TO-TRY1*versuchen
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TO-SWAP3B*wechsel
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PRESENT-OR-HERE1da
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TO-BELONG1^*sein
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MUST1*muss
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Could you imagine deaf schools being shut down completely? What would you do then?
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Without deaf schools? Phew.
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WITHOUT1B*ohne
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DEAF1A*gehörlosenschule
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SCHOOL2H
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In the future, you wouldn’t need any more deaf schools, because more and more deaf students would go to integrative school, so finally, the deaf schools would disappear. What would that mean for the future, what do you imagine?
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So, I imagine it to be just a theory, nothing more.
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MY3mein
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IMAGINATION1A*vorstellung
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IS1ist
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I1für mich
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IS1^erst mal
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EVERYTHING1A*alles
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ONLY4nur
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$ALPHA1:T-O-Itheorie
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Theory, theory, theory.$CUED-SPEECH:R2*theorie theorie theo{rie}
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$GEST-OFF1^*
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‘Theory’, that means ‘notion’.
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$ALPHA1:T-O-Itheorie
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TO-BE-CALLED4*heißt
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IMAGINATION1Avorstellung
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$GEST-OFF1^*
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But reality is something completely different.
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$GEST-OFF1^aber
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$CUED-SPEECH:R2realität
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TO-SEE1*sieht
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ALWAYS4A*immer
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DIFFERENT6*anders
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WHAT-DOES-IT-LOOK-LIKE1*aussehen
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But how I imagine everything without a deaf school or any of the other things we’ve talked about, phew.
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I1ich
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IMAGINATION1A*vorstellung
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WITHOUT1B*ohne
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$INDEX1
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DEAF1A*gehörlosenschule
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SCHOOL2H
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ALSO3Aauch
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$LIST1:1of1dso
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$LIST1:2of2dso
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A-WHOLE-LOT2[MG]
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Yes.
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It’s a possibility, yes.
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HOWEVER1A*doch
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$GEST-DECLINE1^*
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POSSIBLE2*möglich
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YES2*ja
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First and foremost, there is a full list of problems.BUT1*aber
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$LIST1:1of1d*
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MUCH1B*zu viel
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PROBLEM2B*problem
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PRESENT-OR-HERE1da
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$LIST-TOGETHER3:1-5of5*[MG]
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Firstly, the communication mustn’t suffer from the teaching conditions, so it has to be adapted.$LIST1:1of1derstens
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COMMUNICATION1A*kommunikation
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NOT-ALLOWED2darf nicht
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DEFICIENCY-IN-COMMUNICATION1[MG]
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MUST1*muss
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TO-MATCH3*anpassen
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That’s the first problem.
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$LIST1:1of1d
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Secondly, there would have to be equipment for the deaf students, or there would have to be subtitles.
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$LIST1:2of2d*
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$NUM-ORDINAL1:2dzweite
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NARROW1A^gerät
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PRESENT-OR-HERE1*da
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FOR1*für
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DEAF1Agehörlos
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OR6B*oder
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WITH1A*mit
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SUBTITLES2untertitel
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$GEST-OFF1^*
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Or for the hard of hearing students, you need headphones for them to be able to hear what is going on, as well as additional audio amplification for videos.
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OR6Boder
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FOR1*für
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HARD-OF-HEARING1*schwerhörig
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WITH1Amit
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HEADPHONES1[MG]
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TO-SPEAK1A^*
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VIDEO1^band
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EXTRA1*extra
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BACK-AND-FORTH1
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HEAVY1Afür schwerhörig
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HEARING1A*
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That’s the second problem.$LIST1:2of2d*
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Thirdly, you would need interpreters.
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$LIST1:3of3d
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STILL5^oder
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TO-MOVE1^*dolmetscher
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$LIST1:4of4d
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Or you need additional teachers that have knowledge of sign language.
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OR6A*oder
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TEACHER1*lehrer
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EXTRA1*extra
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TO-SIGN1A*
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That’s a lot. It’s possible, but it’s a lot.
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TO-DIVIDE-IN2^*viel
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POSSIBLE2*möglich
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$INDEX1
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ALL2A^*viel
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And all of those things occasion costs.
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TO-BE-CALLED4*heißt
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ALSO3Aauch
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TO-COST2A*kosten
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I always have the financial aspect in the back of my head.
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I1ich
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TO-THINK1Bdenken
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ALWAYS4A*immer
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BACK-OF-THE-HEAD1^*
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TO-COST2A*kosten
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Tax payers like you and I, we have to pay for everything, even the debts.
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MUST1muss
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YOU1*du
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I1ich
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$ORAL^auch
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TO-PAY5steuer
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TO-PAY3*
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FOR1^*auch
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$INDEX1*für
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SCHOOL2B*schule
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It doesn’t really look like the schools would be supported with that money at the moment.
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IF1ob
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FOR1^*richtig
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TO-SUPPORT1A*
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TODAY3*heute
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TO-SEE1*sieht ja
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BAD-OR-STALE2Aschlecht
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NO2Aaus
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There are a lot of cuts right now.
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NOW1zur
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TIME7C*zeit
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NOW1jetzt
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TIME7C*zur
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MUCH1Aviel
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TO-CROSS-OUT1B*gestrichen
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Subventions are reduced as well.
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TO-HELP1hilfe
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TO-WRITE2C*
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MUCH4viel
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TO-CROSS-OUT1Bgestrichen
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Yes, who knows how that will continue.
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$GEST-OFF1^wie
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TO-RUN-MACHINE1*läuft
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FURTHER1B*weiter
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$GEST-OFF1^*
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Have you ever heard the word “inclusion”? That’s a topic that has been discussed a lot.
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I’ve not really had the time to deal with it.$GEST-NM-SHAKE-HEAD1^nein
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I1*
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TIME7C*kein zeit
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HAVE-AUXILIARY1gehabt
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TO-SEE1zu sehen
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Explains the term inclusion and the difference to integration. Adds that there are contrary opinions on it. Gives examples on what inclusion could look like in schools and everyday life. Asks for the informants opinions.
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No, not yet.$GEST-NM-SHAKE-HEAD1^[MG] noch nicht
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No, I don’t know anything about that, no.
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$GEST-NM-SHAKE-HEAD1^[MG]
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I2ich
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$GEST-I-DONT-KNOW1^*weiß nicht
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$GEST-I-DONT-KNOW1^*ich weiß nicht
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Not yet.$ORAL^noch nicht
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$GEST-NM-SHAKE-HEAD1^[MG]
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But/$ORAL^aber
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I only know of the problems.
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I1ich
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TO-KNOW-STH-OR-SB1A^wissen
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ONLY4nur
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PROBLEM2A*problem
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A lot of hearing people imagine it to be easy.
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ALL1A^*meistens
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HEARING1A*hörend
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IMAGINATION1A*vorstellung
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TODAY1heute
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EASY1*zu einfach
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$GEST-DECLINE1^*
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I clearly have to say, “If a person is not personally affected, they can’t decide anything.”
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AND2A*weil
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CLEAR1A*klar klar
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TO-SAY3*sagt
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LIKE-THIS1A*so
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AN1Aein
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QUOTATION-MARKS1wort
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WHAT1B^wer
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NOT6*nicht
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SELF1Aselbst
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AFFECTED2*betroffen
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NOTHING1A*nichts
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CAN2A*kann nicht
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TO-DECIDE1Aentscheiden
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