B: There are deaf people who say that it’s all bullshit.
B: EINIGE1*
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: PERSON1*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: $GEST-NM^
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-ICH-WEISS-NICHT1^*
B: [MG]
B: SCHEISSE1A
B: scheiß
B: They think it’d be better if it were still up or if we just rebuilt the wall.
B: LIEBER1*
B: lieber
B: ZURÜCK2
B: wieder zurück
B: MAUER1B*
B: mauer
B: ZURÜCK2*
B: wieder zurück
B: MAUER1B*
B: [MG]
B: RUHE1*
B: ruhe
B: We wouldn’t have to pay as much then.
B: ICH1
B: [MG]
B: GRUND4A^
B: BEZAHLEN2*
B: I say that it has nothing to do with that.
B: ICH2
B: $GEST-AUFMERKSAMKEIT1^
B: WIE4A^*
B: NEIN2A
B: ZU-TUN-HABEN-MIT1*
B: nichts zu tun
B: Back then, Germany had been destroyed by the second world war.
B: [MG]
B: GRUND4A
B: FRÜHER2*
B: DURCH2B
B: durch
B: zweiter weltkrieg
B: $NUM-ORD1:2d
B: WELT1
B: KRIEG1A
B: [MG]
B: SCHIESSEN1D*
B: $PROD*
B: Others helped Germany; the world helped Germany.
B: $INDEX1*
B: LAUT2A^
B: auf{ruf}
B: HELFEN1*
B: helf
B: WELT1
B: welt
B: HELFEN1*
B: helf
B: Four countries invaded the country.
B: $PROD*
B: [MG]
B: KREUZ1A^
B: $NUM-EINER1A:4
B: vier
B: LAND3A*
B: land
B: Russia, America, France and England.
B: $LIST1:1of1d
B: russland
B: RUSSLAND4B*
B: SCHNURRBART6^*
B: $LIST1:2of2d*
B: AMERIKA1*
B: amerika
B: $LIST1:3of3d
B: FRANKREICH3A*
B: frank{reich}
B: $LIST1:4of4d
B: ENGLAND3*
B: england
B: They fought and invaded together.
B: ZUSAMMEN3A*
B: KAMPF1B
B: kämpf
B: $PROD*
B: [MG]
B: They managed to eradicate the power in Germany.
B: SCHAFFEN1C*
B: schaff
B: $INDEX1*
B: LÖSCHEN1A
B: lö{schen}
B: MÜLL2^*
B: [MG]
B: AUFLÖSUNG1A
B: At first, it was really bad.
B: $PROD*
B: schlimm
B: RESTAURANT1^*
B: SCHLIMM3D*
B: It developed later, I’d say around 1960, that people started saying, “No, we want to have our own border region.
B: spä{ter}
B: ABLAUF1A
B: SPÄTER10
B: GLAUBEN2B
B: GENAU1
B: genau
B: neunzehnhuntersechzig
B: $NUM-TEEN1:9
B: $NUM-HUNDERT3*
B: $NUM-ZEHNER2A:6d*
B: STEMPEL1^
B: [MG]
B: ICH1
B: mein
B: $PROD*
B: [MG]
B: This is where we want our border to be.”
B: MEIN1*
B: mein
B: [MG]
B: $PROD*
B: Everybody was very shocked.
B: MENSCH2*
B: schock
B: SCHOCK2A
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: That reaction was very over the top.
B: $PROD*
B: [MG]
B: ||$INDEX1
B: übertrie{ben}
B: ÜBERTREIBEN1
B: $INDEX2*
B: The Germans back then were innocent; it wasn’t their fault that part of Germany was taken from them.
B: GRUND4A
B: grund
B: ||$INDEX1
B: WIR1A
B: DEUTSCH1
B: deutsch
B: unschuld
B: UNSCHULDIG1*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: GRUND4A
B: grund
B: $PROD*
B: [MG]
B: It wasn’t pretty.
B: ICH2
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: NICHT3A*
B: nicht
B: SCHÖN1A*
B: schön
B: The people were living in freedom, but everything was controlled meticulously.
B: $INDEX1
B: LASSEN1
B: lass
B: FREI2A
B: frei
B: ABER1
B: aber
B: $INDEX1
B: KANN2B
B: kann
B: AUFPASSEN1A*
B: aufpass
B: BEOBACHTEN3B*
B: [MG]
B: They could’ve just done it as the English, French and Americans did and pay attention to everything going well.
B: WIE3A
B: wie
B: WIE4A
B: wie
B: $INDEX1*
B: AMERIKA3
B: amerika
B: UND2A
B: und
B: FRANKREICH3A
B: frank{reich}
B: ENGLAND3
B: england
B: $NUM-EINER1A:3d
B: drei
B: AUFTEILEN5
B: teil
B: AUFPASSEN1A*
B: aufp{assen}
B: ORGANISIEREN2A
B: [MG]
B: ES-LÄUFT1
B: läuft
B: KLAPPT1
B: klappt
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: That’s why I think it’s important that the wall is gone.
B: DARUM1
B: darum
B: ||$INDEX1
B: ICH1
B: DENKEN1A
B: mein
B: MAUER1A*
B: MAUERFALL2
B: mauerfall
B: ||WEG-ENTFERNEN1A
B: weg
B: WEG-ENTFERNEN1C
B: weg
B: All people living in freedom, Germany being united.
B: FREI2A
B: frei
B: [MG]
B: MENSCH2*
B: ZUSAMMEN7
B: I think it’s German history and our tradition.
B: ES-LÄUFT1
B: [MG]
B: ZUKUNFT2
B: zukunft
B: RICHTIG1B*
B: richtig
B: WAHR2
B: wahr
B: geschichte
B: HISTORY-ASL1^*
B: TRADITION2A
B: DEUTSCH1
B: deutsch
B: MEIN1
B: TRADITION2A
B: gesch{ichte}
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: MEIN1*
B: Germany was beautiful as it was, then the country was split, and the GDR was founded. I really didn’t like that.
B: RICHTIG1A*
B: richtig
B: natur
B: NATUR6C*
B: BEREICH1A^*
B: $INDEX1
B: [MG]
B: $PROD*
B: DDR4
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: GRÜNDEN2
B: gegründet
B: FÖRDERN2A^*
B: ICH1
B: ich
B: [MG]
B: SCHMECKEN-NICHT1
B: $GEST-ICH-WEISS-NICHT1^
B: AB1C
B: ab
B: $GEST-ICH-WEISS-NICHT1^*
B: [MG]
A: Yes, but the GDR was founded for a specific reason.
A: ||$GEST-ICH-WEISS-NICHT1^*
A: ||GRUND4A
A: ||WISSEN2A^
A: warum
A: ||GRÜNDEN2
A: grü{nden}
A: ||DDR4
A: d-d-r
A: ||$INDEX2
A: One could’ve left Germany the way it was.
A: ||ICH1
A: ||MEINUNG1A
A: mei{nen}
A: ||BLEIBEN3
A: bleibt
A: ||WIE3A
A: wie
A: ||EINFACH1
A: einf{ach}
A: deutschland
A: ||DEUTSCH1
A: ||BEREICH1B*
A: Of course there was communism and the free countries.
A: ||IN-ENTHALTEN2*
A: in
A: KOMMUNISMUS1*
A: kommu{nismus}
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||FREI2A
A: freiheit
A: Actually, the separation and the border weren’t really necessary.
A: grenze
A: ||GRENZE1C
A: ||ABTRENNEN1
A: ||NICHT3B
A: nicht
A: ||KEIN9
A: But many fled.
A: $GEST-ICH-WEISS-NICHT1^
A: [MG]
A: $INDEX1*
A: ||VIEL5
A: viel
A: ||FLUCHT1A*
A: They started feeling that more and more pressure was put on them, so they fled.
A: $INDEX1*
A: DRUCK-AUF-PERSON1*
A: druck druck
A: GEFÜHL3
A: fühl
A: ||FLUCHT1A
A: ||VIEL5
A: viel
A: Once they realized that less and less people were staying, the wall was built.
A: ||WENIG7A*
A: ||HÖREN1*
A: ||AKTIV1^
A: [MG]
A: MAUER1B*
A: mauer
A: After so many people had fled, they had to be especially sure that wouldn’t happen anymore, so they built the wall.
A: ||FLUCHT1A
A: ||MUSS1
A: muss
A: ||DOPPEL1B
A: doppelt
A: MAUER1B*
A: mauer
A: They gave the whole thing a new name: German Democratic Republic.
A: ||WORT2
A: wort
A: UM1A
A: um
A: demokratisch{e} deutsche republik
A: ||GLEICH2^*
A: ||DEUTSCH1
A: ||$ALPHA1:R
A: They founded the GDR because the communists feared that more people would flee.
A: grün{den}
A: ||GRÜNDEN2
A: PERSON1
A: ||$INDEX1*
A: ||$GEST-OFF^*
A: ||DIENST5^*
A: kommu{nismus}
A: ||KOMMUNISMUS1*
A: ||$INDEX1*
A: ||ANGST1
A: angst
A: ||FLUCHT1A*
A: ZURÜCKHALTEN1A*
A: [MG]
A: People were supposed to stay in the GDR.
A: $GEST-NM-KOPFSCHÜTTELN1^
A: BLEIBEN2*
A: bleib
A: ||GLEICH8*
A: gleich
A: That's sad.
A: schade
A: ||SEHEN1*
A: ||SCHADE1*
A: ||$INDEX2
A: And who was at fault for losing the war? Germany.
A: ||UND5
A: und
A: ||KRIEG1A*
A: krieg
A: ||VERLIEREN1
A: ver{loren}
A: ||WER2
A: wer
A: ||SCHULD2
A: schuld
A: deutschland
A: ||DEUTSCH1*
A: $GEST-ICH-WEISS-NICHT1^
A: I was born after the war. I don’t know anything about all that.
A: ||ICH1
A: aber ich
A: ||GEBURT1A
A: gebu{rt}
A: ||GESCHICHTE3*
A: geschichte
A: ||WISSEN1*
A: weiß
A: ||NICHTS1B*
A: nichts
A: When tourists ask me where I am from, I say I’m from Germany.
A: ||ANDERS2
A: ander{s}
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||TOURIST1*
A: tou{risten}
A: ||KOMMEN1
A: ||ICH2
A: ||$GEST-ÜBERLEGEN1^*
A: ||KOMMEN3*
A: woher komm
A: deutsch
A: ||ICH2*
A: ||DEUTSCH1
A: Then they say, “Of course, a Nazi.”
A: [MG]
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||NAZI1
A: A Nazi.
A: ||NAZI1
A: NAZI2*
A: I then tell them I was born in #196X and had nothing to do with what happened before.
A: ||ICH2
A: ||$GEST-ICH-WEISS-NICHT1^*
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||ICH1
A: ||GEBURT1A
A: gebu{rt}
A: [MG]
A: ||ICH2
A: ||WISSEN2B
A: ||ICH2
A: $NUM-EINER1A:1d
A: eins
A: $NUM-EINER1A:9*
A: neun neun
A: $NUM-EINER1A:6d
A: sechs
A: #x
A: GEBURT1A
A: VOR1G
A: $GEST^*
A: [MG]
A: I know the story, but I don’t have to tell it all.
A: ||ICH1
A: aber
A: ||WISSEN2B
A: weiß
A: ||GESCHICHTE3*
A: ge{schichte}
A: ||ERZÄHLEN4*
A: aber erzähl
A: ||BRAUCHEN1*
A: brauch
A: Many people find Germany very admirable.
A: ||VIEL5
A: viel
A: ||SEHR6
A: [MG]
A: ||HIER1*
A: hier
A: They say Germany has a strong economical growth. Economy wise, it’s going quite well.
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||VIEL5*
A: deutsch
A: ||DEUTSCH1
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||ARBEITEN1*
A: ||STEIL1*
A: ||WIRTSCHAFT1B
A: wirtschaft
A: ||STEIL1*
A: [MG]
A: interessant
A: ||INTERESSE1B
A: ||STEIL1*
A: When it comes to economy, sure, it’s going well, but concerning what us deaf people have managed since then — a lot of things weren’t really possible.
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||WIRTSCHAFT1B*
A: wirt{schaft}
A: ||STEIL1*
A: [MG]
A: ||THANK-YOU-ASL1^*
A: ||ABER1
A: aber
A: gehörlos
A: ||TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A
A: ||WIR1A
A: ||AKTIV1
A: ||STEIL1*
A: ||UNGEFÄHR2^
A: [MG]
A: ||KEIN1*
A: kein
A: möglich
A: MÖGLICH1*
A: ||$GEST-OFF^*
A: I don’t feel like deaf people from the east and the west got together after the fall of the wall, or that they get along well.
A: ||$INDEX1*
A: ||GEFÜHL3*
A: ||ÜBERLEGEN1
A: ||OSTEN1A
A: ost
A: WESTEN1C
A: west
A: ||MAUERFALL1
A: mauer
A: ||TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A
A: gehörlos
A: ||SOLIDARISCH1A^
A: ||GUT1*
A: gut
A: verstehen
A: ||VERSTEHEN1*
A: ||AUSWIRKUNG1^*
A: I found that quite difficult.
B: I don’t really know what happened in detail.
B: $GEST-OFF^
A: ||ICH1
B: ICH1
B: ich
A: schwer
A: ||SCHWIERIG1
B: SELBST1A
B: $GEST-ICH-WEISS-NICHT1^*
B: [MG]
A: ||$GEST-OFF^
B: $ORAL^
B: ob
B: ICH1
B: SELBST1A*
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: [MG]
B: INHALT3*
B: in{halt}
B: WIE-SIEHT-AUS1*
B: wie sieht {aus}
B: There was the German Federation of the Deaf and the one in the GDR.
B: UND2B
B: deutscher gehörlosenbund
B: DEUTSCH1
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: BUND1A*
B: SEIN-IHR1
B: sein
B: $LIST1:2of2d
B: $INDEX1
B: damals
B: DAMALS1
B: $INDEX1
B: deutscher gehörlosenbund
B: DEUTSCH1||$INDEX1
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: BUND1A*
B: Whether or not they joined forces after the wall fell, I don’t know.
B: $PROD*
B: INKORPORATION1
B: [MG]
B: VIELLEICHT2
B: aber
B: KLAPPT1
B: klappt
B: INKORPORATION1*
B: ICH1||$GEST-OFF^*
B: ich
B: I don’t really know what happened with regards to that.
B: INHALT3
B: [MG]
B: ICH1
B: ich
B: WISSEN2A*
B: weiß
B: nicht
B: NICHT3A*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: I/
A: What was it like to play against an Eastern German team as a soccer player?
B: ICH2*
B: ich
A: ||OB4*
A: ob
B: $GEST^*
B: [MG]
A: spiel
A: ||SPIELEN2*
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||GEWESEN1
A: gewesen
A: fußball
A: ||FUSSBALL2
A: ||SPIEL1A
A: How did you experience that? How was that?
A: erlebt
A: ||LEBEN1C*
A: ||SPIEL1A
A: ||FERTIG1A*
A: fertig
A: ||SPIEL1A*
A: ||$GEST-OFF^*
A: Was it weird, different?
A: ||MERKWÜRDIG3
A: [MG]
A: ||$GEST-OFF^
A: [MG]
B: No, we’re all just human, completely normal.
B: $GEST-ICH-WEISS-NICHT1^
B: [MG]
B: GLEICH1A*
B: gleich
B: PERSON1*
B: für mich
B: ähnlich
B: GLEICH8^*
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: NORMAL1*
B: normal
B: Everybody knows the rules, how to fight and the definition of a foul.
B: $INDEX1*
B: BEDEUTUNG1
B: bedeut{et}
B: spielregel
B: SPIELEN2
B: REGEL1D
B: WISSEN2B
B: weiß
B: WIE-FRAGE-VERGLEICH1
B: KAMPF1B
B: kämpf
B: FOUL1*
B: foul
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX1
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: But talking about something else for a second.
B: ABER1
B: aber
B: [MG]
B: BEISEITE1B*
B: $INDEX1
B: People who lived in the GDR realized that even ten years after the wall fell, they weren’t satisfied with the situation.
B: MENSCH2*
B: SEIN-IHR1
B: DDR4
B: d-d-r
B: SEIN-IHR1
B: erfah{rung}
B: ERFAHRUNG2B*
B: HAUPT1A^*
B: erfahrung
B: ERFAHRUNG2B*
B: MEIN1*
B: LEBEN1A
B: leb
B: WIMMELN1^
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX1*
B: MAUERFALL2*
B: mauerfall
B: VERLAUF1
B: BIS-JETZT3B*
B: bis jetzt
B: zehn
B: $NUM-JAHR-NACH-JETZT1:10
B: VERLAUF1
B: $INDEX1
B: zufrieden
B: ZUFRIEDEN6
B: EINIGE1*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: It was difficult to find a job/
B: ARBEITEN2*
B: arbeit
B: BEKOMMEN4
B: bekommen
B: SCHWER1B
B: schwer
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: One took finding a job for granted, because one thought that new companies would be built up.
B: GLAUBEN2B
B: SELBSTVERSTÄNDLICH1B*
B: selbstver{ständlich}
B: DEUTSCH1*
B: deutsch
B: ZUSAMMEN7
B: zusamm
B: WIE4A*
B: wie
B: $GEST^
B: BEKOMMEN1*
B: beko{mmen}
B: QUELLE1A^*
B: FIRMA1B*
B: NEU1A
B: neu
B: FIRMA1B*
B: fir{ma}
B: QUELLE1A^
B: fabrik
B: $PROD*
B: [MG]
B: I can understand that.
B: ICH1
B: VERSTEHEN1
B: [MG]
B: I understand them.
B: ICH1
B: AUF-PERSON1
B: auf
B: VERSTEHEN1
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: They thought that with the fall of the wall, there would be many open spaces that companies could move to.
B: $INDEX1*
B: mauerfall
B: MAUER1B
B: MAUERFALL2
B: FREI1*
B: f{rei}
B: FREI2A
B: frei
B: WAS1B*
B: FLACH3A^
B: fläche
B: ||KOMMEN-AUFFORDERN1
B: ||FIRMA1B*
B: However, the companies already had enough sites in western Germany.
B: ICH1*
B: DA1*
B: da da
B: GENUG2*
B: genug
B: Why build something up in the east if there’s already enough in the west?
B: ICH1
B: GRÜNDEN2
B: gegrün{det}
B: firma
B: FIRMA1A
B: $PROD*
B: ||ICH2
B: ||$INDEX1
B: FRISCH1*
B: frisch
B: DREHEN8^
B: genug
B: GENUG2
B: DA1*
B: $INDEX1
B: TRANSPORT1B*
B: transport
B: genug
B: GENUG1
B: $INDEX1*
B: The east is problematic in regards to that.
B: BEREICH1A*
B: PROBLEM1
B: problem
B: BEREICH1A*
B: I know that and one has to see what time will bring, how it will develop.
B: ICH1*
B: weiß nicht ob
B: WISSEN2A*
B: NICHT1*
B: ENTWICKELN2
B: [MG]
B: zei{t}
B: ZEIT1
B: ENTWICKELN1A*
B: ÄNDERN1
B: [MG]
B: Maybe there will be a company in the future that wants to settle there.
B: ||SUCHEN1*
B: [MG]
B: ||UMZIEHEN2^
B: [MG]
B: GUT1*
B: [MG]
B: $PROD*
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: noch
B: NOCH4A*
B: BIS-HEUTE2
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: $GEST-VERSCHRÄNKTE-ARME1^
B: [MG]
B: One has to be patient.
B: geduld
B: GEDULD1B
B: $GEST-OFF^*
C: When Germany was still separated, would you say there was a part where it was nicer to live as a deaf person? Were you supported a lot? Did the west invest a lot of money for deaf people or was it about the same?
A: Somebody once told me that in the east, it was considered more normal to be deaf.
A: ||$GEST-OFF^*
A: ||ICH1
A: ||SCHON3*
A: schon
A: ||EIN1A
A: ||FREUND7
A: freund
A: ||ERZÄHLEN1
A: ||$GEST-OFF^*
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||SAGEN1*
A: ||$GEST-OFF^*
A: ||GEWOHNHEIT1
A: gewohnt
A: ||SAGEN1*
A: wie
A: ||GEWOHNHEIT1
A: gewohnt
A: Like deaf and hearing students going to the same school, for example.
A: ||WIE4B*
A: wie
A: ||HÖREND1A
A: hö{rend}
A: ||SCHULE1A
A: schu{le}
A: ||UND2B
A: und
A: ||TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
A: gehör{los}
A: schu{le}
A: ||SCHULE1C
A: ||ZUSAMMEN1B
A: ||GEWOHNHEIT1*
A: leben
A: ||LEBEN1C
A: ||$GEST-OFF^
A: Here, through the German Federation of the Deaf, one doesn’t have to pay fees when taking trips [probably referring to train rides].
A: deutscher gehörlosenbund
A: ||DEUTSCH1
A: ||TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A
A: ||BUND3C*
A: ||FREI1*
A: frei
A: ||FREI-KOSTENLOS1*
A: ||FAHREN1*
A: freifah{rt}
A: That didn’t exist in the GDR. Everybody had to pay for himself or herself.
A: ||DDR4*
A: d-d{-r}
A: ||KEIN8
A: ||SELBST1A*
A: selbst
A: ||BEZAHLEN1
A: bezah{len}
A: However, they weren’t able to travel to the west. They were allowed to travel only within the eastern areas.
A: ||ABER1
A: aber
A: ||WESTEN1C*
A: w{est}
A: ||WESTEN1A
A: west
A: ||FAHREN1*
A: $PROD*||MASSE-PERSON-AKTIV2*
A: [MG]
A: ||NICHT3A*
A: ||NUR2B*
A: ||OSTEN1A
A: ost
A: ||OSTEN1A*
A: o{st}
A: To Hungary, or from the GDR to Poland.
A: $LIST1:1of1d
A: ||UNGARN-$KANDIDAT-MST12^*
A: ungarn
A: ||$INDEX1*
A: ||DDR4*
A: d-d-r
A: ||POLEN2*
A: pol{en}
A: ||MASSE-PERSON-AKTIV2*
A: [MG]
A: $GEST-NM-KOPFNICKEN1^
A: okay
A: Leaving the country was limited, though.
A: ||ABER1
A: aber
A: ||GRENZE1B
A: grenz
A: BESUCHEN1B*
A: If one had the dream of travelling to some other country in the world, that wasn’t possible.
A: ||ABER1
A: aber
A: ||WELT2*
A: ||WÜNSCHEN1B
A: wünsch
A: ||TRAUM1*
A: traum
A: welt
A: ||WELT1*
A: $INDEX1*
A: ||NICHT3A*
A: ni{cht}
A: ||MÖGLICH1*
A: mö{glich}
A: It was like a restriction of one’s freedom.
A: ||UND5
A: und
A: ||WIE4A*
A: wie
A: ||BLOCKIEREN1A*
A: [MG]
A: ||BEHINDERUNG7*
A: [MG]
A: Some people knew that other countries existed, but didn’t really think about it.
A: ||EINIGE1
A: [MG]
A: WISSEN2A
A: wei{ß}
A: ANDERS2
A: an{dere}
A: PERSON1*
A: ||LUFT3A
A: [MG]
A: Until the wall fell, that’s when the interest was sparked.
A: ||BIS1*
A: bis
A: ||MAUERFALL2
A: mauerfa{ll}
A: ||INTERESSE1B
A: [MG]
A: He said he didn’t regret it, it was normal.
A: $ORAL^
A: aber
A: ||VOR1G*
A: vor
A: ||ICH1
A: ||BEREUEN1
A: bereuen
A: $INDEX1||SAGEN1
A: sagt
A: ||NICHT3B*
A: nicht
A: normal
A: ||NORMAL1*
A: ||$GEST-OFF^*
A: I always looked at it thinking that life there [in the east] was harder.
A: [MG]
A: ||ICH2
A: VERGLEICH2
A: ||ICH2
A: ||SEHEN1
A: [MG]
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||SEHR6*
A: I thought they were underprivileged.
A: ||WENIG1^*
A: [MG]
A: But they didn’t look up to us; their lives were just as ordinary to them.
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||SEHEN-AUF1*
A: ||NORMAL1
A: nor{mal}
A: After the wall fell, they just discovered a lot of new things, well, I don’t know.
A: ||ICH1
A: ||LERNEN1
A: lern
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||NEU1A*
A: neu
A: ||INTERESSE1B
A: [MG]
A: ||$GEST-ICH-WEISS-NICHT1^
A: The disadvantage now is the high rate of unemployment.
A: ABER1
A: aber
A: nachteil
A: NACH1
A: NACHTEIL3
A: arbeitslos
A: ARBEITEN1*
A: NICHT5*
A: $INDEX1
B: Concerning travel, I just thought of this.
A: $GEST-OFF^*
A: A lot of things changed for the people.
B: $INDEX1
A: FIRMA1B*
A: firma
B: ZUSAMMENHANG1B
B: [MG]
A: ÄNDERN1
A: [MG]
B: $INDEX1
B: FAHREN1*
B: [MG]
B: A great thing/
B: $NUM-EINER1A:1d
B: [MG]
B: SEHR6*
B: SEIN-IHR1
B: Back then, in the GDR, young people were supported a lot within a community.
B: DDR4
B: d-d-r
B: zei{t}
B: ZEIT1
B: BEREICH1A^
B: TOLL1A*
B: [MG]
B: JUNG1
B: jung
B: FÖRDERN1A*
B: FÖRDERN1B*
B: FÖRDERN1A*
B: [MG]
B: Together, they went on a lot of trips and were given money to realize them.
B: ZUSAMMEN7
B: [MG]
B: APPLAUS2^*
B: AUSFLUG5*
B: aus{flug}
B: [MG]
B: GELD1A
B: GEBEN-GELD1
B: The government supported them going on trips.
B: REGIERUNG1*
B: regierung
B: GEBEN-GELD1
B: [MG]
B: FÖRDERN1A*
B: AUSFLUG5*
B: ausflug
B: A lot of things were supported, like sports and trips.
B: AUSFLUG5*
B: ICH1
B: [MG]
B: AUFZÄHLEN1A
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: FAHREN1^*
B: [MG]
B: SPORT1
B: sport
B: [MG]
B: FÖRDERN1A*
B: $INDEX1*
B: GEBEN-GELD1
B: [MG]
B: FÖRDERN1A*
B: FAHREN1^*
B: I thought that was extraordinary and impressive.
B: ICH1
B: [MG]
B: MERKWÜRDIG1
B: [MG]
B: AUFZÄHLEN1A
B: paar
B: TOLL1A
B: [MG]
B: That didn’t exist in the west.
B: [MG]
B: ICH1
B: $INDEX1
B: $ALPHA1:W*
B: we{st}
B: NEIN1A*
B: [MG]
B: One always had to pay at least partly.
B: BEDEUTUNG1^*
B: GEBEN-GELD1*
B: [MG]
B: SELBST1A*||$INDEX1
B: selbst
B: halb
B: HALB1A
B: BEZAHLEN5*
B: selbst
B: SELBST1A
B: $INDEX1*
B: HALB1A
B: $GEST-ICH-WEISS-NICHT1^
B: There were some great things in the east, really great.
B: $INDEX1
B: [MG]
B: TOLL1A
B: $INDEX1||EINIGE1
B: TOLL1A
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: It was commendable, great.
B: GUT1
B: gut
B: VORBILD1
B: vorbild
B: ZEIGEN1A
B: [MG]
B: TOLL1A
B: [MG]
B: That was positive, they were proud of being able to show that.
B: ICH2
B: WISSEN2B^
B: GUT1
B: gut
B: ICH1*
B: STOLZ1*
B: stolz
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: ZEIGEN1A*
B: $GEST-ICH-WEISS-NICHT1^
B: After the fall of the wall it changed: Everyone had to pay for himself now.
B: ZIEL2*
B: MAUERFALL2
B: mauerfall
B: VERÄNDERN3*
B: $INDEX1*
B: SELBST1A*
B: selbst
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX1
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: Before that time it was better because there was a good budget available.
B: FRÜHER1*
B: [MG]
B: BESSER2
B: GELD1A
B: GEBEN-GELD1*
B: BESSER2*
B: [MG]
B: Now, due to the changes, you had to pay all or half of it by yourself.
B: leer
B: JETZT1
B: ALLE-LEER1*
B: SELBST1A
B: selbst
B: BEZAHLEN5
B: bezah{len}
B: hälfte
B: HALB6
B: SELBST1A
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: The people said that was bullshit.
B: $INDEX1
B: [MG]
B: SCHEISSE1A
B: schei{ße}
B: GEHÖREN1^
B: ICH2^
B: OKAY1A
B: It was obvious that that‘s how it would develop in the future, and also somewhat normal.
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: NORMAL1
B: normal
B: ZUKUNFT2*
B: zu{kunft}
B: $INDEX1
B: ÄNDERN1
B: än{dern}
B: NORMAL1*
B: normal
B: Where was the money supposed to come from?
B: BEHÄLTER2^
B: $INDEX1*
B: GELD1A
B: woher
B: WOHER1
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: It was of course impossible to continue that way; that would’ve torn a huge hole into the funds.
B: [MG]
B: WARUM1^*
B: $INDEX1
B: IMMER4A*
B: immer
B: GELD1A
B: HOLEN1B
B: holen
B: $INDEX1*
B: LOCH1B
B: loch
B: $INDEX1
B: GEHEN1B*
B: geht
B: NICHT3A
B: nicht
B: Now, they can understand that as well.
B: $INDEX1
B: [LM:ah]
B: VERSTEHEN1
B: STIMMT1A
B: stimmt
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: Of course, I don’t know how they paid for all that back in the GDR. Maybe that also ruined them financially.
B: $INDEX1
B: [MG]
B: HABEN-EXISTIEREN1*
B: [MG]
B: weiß
B: WISSEN2B*
B: ICH1
B: NICHT3A*
B: nicht
B: DDR4
B: d-d-r
B: ORGANISIEREN2A*
B: HABEN-EXISTIEREN1*
B: [MG]
B: AUGE1*
B: INHALT3
B: WISSEN2B
B: [MG]
B: LOCH1B
B: loch
B: weiß
B: ||WISSEN2B*
B: ||ICH1
B: ||NICHT3A
B: nicht
B: ||$GEST-OFF^
B: That’s a possibility, but it was never officially stated. The Stasi always kept everything under wraps.
B: MÖGLICH1
B: möglich
B: ÖFFENTLICH1
B: offen
B: NIEMALS2A*
B: niemals
B: schweigepflicht
B: SCHWEIGEN1A*
B: PFLICHT5*
B: BEREICH1D^
B: stasi
B: STASI1A
B: BEREICH1A^
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: Well, that’s just the way it was.
B: $INDEX1
B: ja
B: KENNENLERNEN1^*
B: [MG]
A: Comparing supportive actions, it was a lot better in the GDR than in Germany.
B: ||$GEST-OFF^*
A: aber
A: ||ABER1
A: ||GUT1
B: $GEST-NM^
A: ||FÖRDERN1B
A: förder
A: ||PROBE1^*
A: ||VERGLEICH2
A: ||$ALPHA1:D
A: d-d-r
A: ||VIEL5
A: viel
A: ||BESSER1
A: besser
A: ||ALS3*
A: als
A: deutschland
A: ||DEUTSCH1
A: ||HIER1*
A: They followed particular goals; that wasn’t the case in [Western] Germany.
A: ||DA1*
A: da
A: ||ZIEL2*
A: ziel ziel
A: deu{tschland}
A: ||DEUTSCH1
A: ||HIER1
A: ||LUFT3B*
A: [MG]
A: The wish for freedom was much bigger here.
A: ||FREI2A
A: freiheit
A: wunsch
A: ||WÜNSCHEN1B
A: $INDEX1
A: In the east, one concentrated more on sports, education and everyone having the same personal rights.
A: ||GUT1
A: sport
A: ||SPORT1*
A: ||KONZENTRIEREN1*
A: ||$LIST1:2of2d
A: bildung
A: ||BILDUNG3*
A: ||$LIST1:3of3d
A: ||ODER1*
A: ||PERSON1*
A: persönlich
A: ||GLEICH8*
A: gleich
A: ||RECHT1
A: recht
A: ||GLEICH8*
A: [MG]
A: It was a lot more straightforward, whereas here, there were more differences.
A: ||WIE3B
A: wie
A: ||FEST1B^*
A: [MG]
A: ||RICHTUNG1*
A: [MG]
A: HIER1
A: ||UNTERSCHIED1B*
A: $GEST-OFF^
A: Through those two groups of people coming together, conflicts arose.
A: ||DANN1A*
A: dann
A: ||BEEINFLUSSEN1*
A: einfluss
A: konflikt
A: ||KONFLIKT1E
A: ||$GEST-OFF^
A: I find exchanging thoughts and being in contact with deaf people from eastern Germany quite difficult.
A: ||AUSTAUSCHEN1*
A: austausch
A: ||ICH1*
A: ||TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A
A: ||PERSON1
A: ||OSTEN1A
A: ost
A: ||KONTAKT2B
A: kontakt
A: schwer
A: ||SCHWIERIG1
A: ||ICH1
A: It takes time to warm up to one another and exchange opinions.
A: ||INEINANDERGREIFEN1B^
A: [MG]
A: meinung
A: ||MEINUNG1B
A: ||SEIN-IHR1
A: ||VERGLEICH2*
A: ||INEINANDERGREIFEN1B*
A: But it’s interesting that both sides communicate in German Sign Language.
A: aber
A: $GEST-NM-KOPFNICKEN1^
A: ||ABER1
A: ||INTERESSE1B
A: intere{ssant}
A: ||KULTUR1A*
A: ||AUSTAUSCHEN1
A: austausch
A: ||ICH1*
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||DEUTSCH1
A: deutsch
A: ||SPRACHE1*
A: sprache
A: ||ICH1
A: ||GEBÄRDEN1G*
A: [MG]
A: ||KANN1
A: kann
A: ||ICH1
A: ||$GEST-OFF^
A: [MG]
B: After finishing school in the GDR, deaf people would immediately get a job.
B: UND2B
B: und
B: $INDEX1
B: PERSON1*
B: [MG]
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: PERSON1*
B: DDR4
B: d-d-r
B: PERSON1*
B: SCHULE1A
B: schule
B: DANN1A
B: dann
B: ENTLASSEN1
B: entlassen
B: ARBEITEN2
B: arbeit
B: BEKOMMEN1*
B: bekomm bekomm {be}komm
B: UMZIEHEN1^*
B: [MG]
B: ARBEITEN2*
B: arbeit
B: ABLAUF2^*
B: [MG]
B: EINSTELLEN-ARBEIT1A*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: There were absolutely no problems.
B: kein problem
B: KEIN2*
B: PROBLEM1
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: That’s how it developed.
B: ENTWICKELN1B
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: After passing their final exam for their apprenticeship, they got jobs. And those was save; everything was just dandy.
B: NACH1*
B: BILDUNG1
B: aus{bildung}
B: FERTIG2*
B: ges{ellen}prüf
B: GESELLE3*
B: PRÜFEN1*
B: FERTIG2*
B: fert{ig}
B: ENTWICKELN1B
B: [MG]
B: ARBEITEN2*
B: arbeit
B: SICHER1
B: sicher
B: ENTWICKELN1B*
B: [MG]
B: SUPER1*
B: [MG]
B: After the fall of the wall, all that changed.
B: $INDEX1*
B: MAUERFALL2
B: mauerfall
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-NM-KOPFSCHÜTTELN1^
B: AUCH1A*
B: ÄNDERN1*
B: ändern
B: A lot of companies went out of business, and a lot of people got laid off.
B: FIRMA1B
B: firma
B: PLEITE1
B: pleite
B: KONKURS1*
B: [MG]
B: ENTLASSEN2*
B: [MG]
B: VERRINGERN1B
B: [MG]
B: When deaf people have to go look for a new job, it’s a lot more difficult nowadays.
B: $INDEX1
B: [MG]
B: DANN1A
B: dann
B: HEUTE3
B: heut{igen}
B: z{eit}
B: ZEIT1
B: JETZT3*
B: WOLLEN2*
B: will
B: SUCHEN1
B: such
B: ARBEITEN1*
B: arbeit
B: SCHWER1B
B: schwer
B: One is also confronted with reactions such as, “We don’t employ deaf people.”
B: BEWEGUNG1B^
B: [MG]
B: WISSEN2A
B: GEHÖRLOS1*
B: $INDEX1
B: ABLEHNEN2
B: ab{lehnen}
B: $INDEX1
B: $GEST^
B: Deaf people who were living in the GDR at the time say that there was absolutely no problem getting a job back then.
B: FRÜHER2
B: früher
B: GUT1
B: [MG]
B: GEHÖRLOS1
B: DDR4
B: zeit
B: ZEIT1
B: ZWISCHEN1C*
B: ARBEITEN2*
B: arbeit
B: BEKOMMEN1*
B: bekomm
B: It didn’t matter that they were deaf.
B: GEHÖRLOS1
B: ROLLE2
B: spielt {keine} rolle
B: NICHTS1B*
B: That job security was amazing.
B: arbeitp{latz}
B: ARBEITEN1*
B: PLATZ9
B: SICHER1*
B: sicher
B: $PROD*
B: SUPER1
B: [MG]
B: I found that quite surprising.
B: ICH1
B: $GEST^
B: [MG]
B: STAUNEN1*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: It’s a big difference compared to here.
B: UNTERSCHIED2
B: unter{schied}
B: HIER1*
B: hier
B: JETZT3*
B: $GEST-OFF^*
C: Maybe you still remember this. When the east and the west were still separated, one was able to receive a lot of money and support in the east without having to first file an application. There was no paper-warfare. Here, in the west, one had to go through the whole application process to get money. Can you remember that? Have deaf people told you about something like that?
A: No, but I know that a lot of money was put into education.
A: $GEST-NM-KOPFSCHÜTTELN1^
A: [MG]
A: aber
A: ||ABER1*
A: ||WISSEN2A*
A: schulbildung
A: ||SCHULE1A*
A: ||BILDUNG1
A: ||BEKOMMEN1*
A: bekomm
A: ||GELD1A*
A: All books were free, for example.
A: ||FREI-KOSTENLOS1
A: frei
A: BUCH1B
A: buch
A: ||BEKOMMEN1*
A: bekomm
A: The security of jobs was supported.
A: FÖRDERN1B*
A: fördern
A: ||$INDEX1
A: arbeitsplatz
A: ||ARBEITEN2*
A: ||PLATZ9*
A: ||BEKOMMEN1*
A: bekomm
A: ||BIS-DAHIN2
A: And there was a deaf society and theatre groups that were strongly supported, just like that.
A: $ORAL^
A: und
A: GESELLSCHAFT1*
A: gesellschaft
A: gehörlos
A: ||GEHÖRLOS1*
A: ||ORT1B^*
A: $ORAL^
A: und
A: ||THEATER6*
A: theater
A: ||ZEIGEN1A*
A: FÖRDERN1B
A: fördern
A: ||$INDEX2*
A: ||FREI-KOSTENLOS1
A: frei
A: $GEST-OFF^
A: Over here, we also considered that completely normal.
A: ||FÜR1*
A: ||ICH1
A: MEHR1
A: mehr
A: AKTIV1^*
A: ||ICH1
A: ||GEFÜHL2A
A: fühl
A: ||ICH2
A: wie
A: NORMAL1
A: normal
A: Looking back at it now, it’s nice to see there was so much support over there.
A: ||ICH1
A: ||SEHEN1
A: [MG]
A: schön
A: ||SCHÖN4*
A: ZUSCHUSS2
A: I don’t know how it would have turned out if we in West Germany had got the same financial support.
A: $GEST-OFF^
A: ZUSCHUSS2*
A: schön
A: ||ICH1
A: ||WISSEN2B
A: $GEST-OFF^
B: I don’t know anything on the topic of applications over there.
B: $GEST-ICH-WEISS-NICHT1^
B: ICH1
B: $INDEX1
B: AB2
B: ab
B: THEMA1
B: thema
B: ANTRAG1B*
B: antrag
B: $GEST-ICH-WEISS-NICHT1^
B: I know that the government had its influence on the people, and that it supported and funded a lot of things.
B: $INDEX1*
B: WIE3A
B: wie
B: LEBEN1C
B: leben
B: ENTWICKELN1A
B: entwickeln
B: $INDEX1*
B: ORGANISIEREN2A
B: [MG]
B: SELBST1A*
B: selbst
B: ORGANISIEREN2A
B: [MG]
B: ICH1*
B: AUSFLUG5*
B: aus{flug}
B: PROGRAMM1B*
B: programm
B: ZEIGEN1B*
B: [MG]
B: ICH1
B: BESORGEN1*
B: $INDEX1
B: WIMMELN1^*
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX1
B: ICH2
B: GELD1A
B: GEBEN-GELD1
B: $GEST^
B: AUSFLUG5*
B: [MG]
B: SUPER1*
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX1*
B: LUFT3A^
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX1
B: BEREICH1A^
B: LUFT3A^*
B: But I don’t know how that worked and what it entailed exactly.
B: INHALT3
B: ICH2
B: $GEST-ICH-WEISS-NICHT1^
C: Others in the west have also said that the wall should be put up again. That one should rebuild it. What do you think? Should the wall have been kept in your opinion? What do you think about the solidarity surcharge? If the wall hadn’t fallen, one would’ve never had to pay that. Many say that, now, through the fall of the wall, one has to pay a lot. How do you see that?
B: When I look at my pay slip, there’s the social/
B: SELBST1A*
B: ICH1
B: MEIN1
B: mein
B: WAS1A*
B: was
B: ICH1*
B: lohn{ab}rechnung
B: LOHN1
B: ABRECHNEN1*
B: $PROD*
B: $INDEX1*
B: SOZIAL2A*
B: The social deduction/
B: sozialzuschlag
B: SOZIAL2A
B: SCHLAGEN1^
B: ICH1||$PROD*
B: $INDEX2*
B: No, the solidarity surcharge, the one that gets subtracted.
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
B: solidaritätszuschlag
B: SOLIDARISCH1A
B: SCHLAGEN1^
B: $INDEX1||$PROD*
B: ICH1
B: GELD1A
B: [MG]
B: NEHMEN2^*
B: FINANZIERUNG1
B: If I imagine putting all that money into a piggy bank instead and checking in the end how much it is in total, it’d be quite an amount; and that‘s what I’ve paid over the years as solidarity surcharge.
B: ICH1*
B: DA1
B: WIE3A*
B: wie
B: ANFÜHRUNGSZEICHEN1^
B: ICH1
B: schwein
B: SCHWEIN2
B: BEHÄLTER2^
B: GELD1A*
B: SPENDEN2A*
B: spenden spenden
B: WERFEN1*
B: [MG]
B: ICH1*
B: SCHLAGEN1*
B: $PROD*
B: [MG]
B: GELD1A
B: geld
B: $PROD*
B: ICH1
B: verzichten
B: GELD1A
B: VERZICHTEN1*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: I am aware why politicians handle it that way.
B: ICH1
B: [MG]
B: weiß
B: WISSEN2B*
B: ICH1
B: POLITIK1*
B: pol{itik}
B: WAS1B*
B: was
B: ERKLÄREN1^
B: [MG]
B: The reason was all the war damage that had destroyed much of eastern Germany.
B: GRUND4A
B: grund
B: ostdeutschland
B: $ALPHA1:O
B: DEUTSCH1
B: schlimm
B: BEREICH1A*
B: SCHLIMM1*
B: kriegsschäden
B: SCHIESSEN1B^*
B: SCHADEN1
B: HAUS2
B: haus
B: $PROD*
B: [MG]
B: BRECHEN1^*
B: schaden
B: I understood that a lot of it had to be repaired there.
B: ICH1
B: VERSTEHEN1
B: versteh
B: REPARIEREN1
B: [MG]
B: I had hoped back then that within ten years everything would be rebuilt so that there would only be small stuff left to deal with.
B: hoffe
B: ICH1
B: HOFFEN1C
B: BIS1
B: bis
B: $NUM-JAHR-NACH-JETZT1:10*
B: zehn jahre
B: REPARIEREN1*
B: VERÄNDERN1B*
B: [MG]
B: BISSCHEN1A*
B: bisschen
B: I had hoped that the solidarity surcharge would then be abolished again.
B: HOFFEN1A*
B: ho{ffen}
B: $INDEX1
B: solidaritätszuschlag
B: SOLIDARISCH1A
B: ZUSCHLAG1*
B: AB1A*
B: ab
B: HOFFEN1C
B: hoff
B: ICH1*
B: But it still exists today.
B: ABLAUF1^
B: [MG] noch
B: NOCH3*
B: BIS-HEUTE2*
B: $GEST^
B: [MG]
B: So much has been repaired and done in the east, it should be enough now.
B: $INDEX1
B: FERTIG2
B: fe{rtig}
B: REPARIEREN1*
B: BESSER1*
B: besser
B: FERTIG2
B: [MG]
B: GENUG2
B: genug
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: I think enough has been done.
B: ICH1*
B: BALD2
B: ENDE1^*
B: [MG]
B: SCHLUSS1
B: sch{luss}
B: GENUG2
B: genug
B: FÜR1*
B: für
B: SCHLUSS1
B: schluss
B: I don’t like the fact that we still have to pay.
B: TROTZDEM2A
B: trotz{dem}
B: noch
B: NOCH4B*
B: BIS-HEUTE2
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: NICHT3A*
B: SCHÖN1A
B: schön
B: I’d like it to be abolished.
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
B: ICH1*
B: ÄRGERN-SICH2
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX1*
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: [MG]
B: DENKEN1B*
B: [MG]
B: ABSCHAFFEN1*
B: absch{affen}
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
A: For a while, I was also angry about it, but it’s kind of been forgotten, until now.
A: ||ICH1
A: ||BIS-JETZT1
A: [MG]
A: anfang
A: ||ANFANG1A*
A: ||ICH1
A: $PROD*||$INDEX1*
A: ||ÄRGERN-SICH2*
A: ärgern
A: SPÄTER10*
A: ||VERGESSEN1*
A: vergess
A: ||$GEST-ABWINKEN1^
A: ROLLEN1A^*
A: [MG]
A: ||JETZT1
A: jetzt
A: The whole of Germany has to be financially supported, not just the east. It has to be equal.
A: GEBEN-GELD1^*
A: FÖRDERN1B*
A: fördern
A: ||AUCH1A*
A: auch
A: deutschland
A: ||DEUTSCH1*
A: ||HIER-JETZT1^
A: ||LAND3A*
A: ||ALLE2C^
A: FÖRDERN1B
A: fördern
A: ||LAND3A*
A: land
A: ||AUCH1A
A: auch
A: DASSELBE3*
A: {das}selbe
A: ||WACHSEN2C^
A: GLEICH9
A: ||DASSELBE3
A: {das}selbe
A: ||$GEST-OFF^
A: If the wall were to be back, I imagine the world would laugh at us.
A: $ORAL^
A: aber
A: ||WENN1A*
A: wenn
A: ZURÜCK2
A: wieder zurück
A: MAUER1B*
A: mauer
A: WELT1
A: welt
A: lachen
A: ||LACHEN1
A: ||AUF-PERSON1
A: ||$GEST-OFF^
A: It’d be better to fight for the east to be elevated to the same level as the west.
A: ||LIEBER1
A: lieb
A: ||STARK2B*
A: [MG]
A: ||DU1
A: du
A: ||KAMPF2
A: kämpfen
A: ||WACHSEN2C^*
A: One doesn’t need a wall.
A: MAUER1B
A: mauer
A: BRAUCHEN1*
A: brauch nicht
A: In my opinion, we don’t need the wall back.
A: ||ICH1*
A: [MG]
A: ||SELBST1A*
A: mein
A: ||MEINUNG1B
A: mein
A: MAUER1B*
A: mauer
A: ZURÜCK1A*
A: wieder zurück
A: WOFÜR3
A: wofür
A: I think it’s important that we accept one another.
A: ||GLEICH8*
A: [MG]
A: WICHTIG1*
A: wichtig
A: AKZEPTIEREN1*
A: akzeptier akzeptier akzeptier
A: Just check out whether one wants to live in the west.
A: ||SO1A*
A: so
A: ||GEHÖREN1^
A: so
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||KOMMEN1
A: ZUFRIEDEN4
A: zu{frieden}
A: If not, one can live at home and build something up there.
A: ZUFRIEDEN4
A: zu{frieden}
A: ||WEG-FORT1
A: wohnheim
A: WOHNUNG1A*
A: ||BEREICH1B^*
A: AUFBAUEN2
A: aufbau
A: That way the life of former GDR inhabitants can change the same way ours did.
A: ||SELBST2
A: selbst
A: ||LEBEN1C*
A: leben
A: VERÄNDERN1A*
A: verändern
A: ||ICH1
A: auch
A: ||LEBEN1C*
A: leben
A: VERÄNDERN1A*
A: verändern
A: It‘s called mutual influence.
A: BEEINFLUSSEN1*
A: einfluss
A: It’s already been/
A: SCHON3
A: schon
A: It’s already been approximately 20 years/
A: ||BIS-JETZT1
A: ||UNGEFÄHR1*
A: ||$NUM-ZEHNER1:2d
A: zwanzig
A: ||JAHR1A*
A: jahr
A: 20 years/
A: $NUM-ZEHNER2A:2d
A: zwanzig
A: ||JAHR1A*
A: jahr
A: ||$NUM-EINER1A:1d
A: 20 years/
A: ||$NUM-ZEHNER2A:2d
A: zwanzig
A: ||JAHR1A*
A: jahr
B: No, 22 years.
B: $GEST-NM^
B: [MG]
A: 12/
B: $NUM-EINER1A:2d
A: ||$NUM-TEEN1:2d
A: zwölf
B: $NUM-EINER1A:1d*
B: einund
B: $NUM-DOPPEL1A:2d
B: zweiundzwanzig
B: JAHR1A
B: jahr
A: Yes, exactly, 22 years.
A: ||$NUM-DOPPEL1B:2d*
A: zweiundzwanzig
A: ||JAHR1A
A: jahr
A: When I think about how fast the time has passed/
A: ||MERKEN2*
A: ||SCHNELL3A
A: schnell
A: VERLAUF1
A: [MG]
A: $GEST-OFF^
A: um
A: I mean, it’s no longer complicate to travel to the east.
A: ||ICH1*
A: PROBLEM2A*
A: problem
A: ||$INDEX1
A: One can just go to Berlin.
A: ||NUR2B
A: nur
A: fahr
A: AUTO-FAHREN2
A: WEIT1*
A: FERTIG2
A: fertig
A: ||ICH1
A: ||WEIT1*
A: weit
A: BERLIN1A
A: ber{lin}
A: There are no stressful situations at the borders.
A: ||NICHT3A
A: ||BARRIERE1*
A: STRESS1A*
A: stress
A: It’s great to discover all that anew, the landscape, nothing else.
A: ||DURCH1^*
A: ||MERKWÜRDIG1
A: [MG]
A: LANDSCHAFT1*
A: landschaft
A: ||SUPER1
A: [MG]
A: $ORAL^
A: sonst
A: NICHTS1B
A: nichts
A: Nowadays, one can travel the entire area along the Baltic Sea coast, Rügen, for example.
A: ||ENDLICH2A*
A: end{lich}
A: ostsee
A: ||OSTEN1B
A: ||SEE1A
A: ||MEHR1
A: mehr
A: AUSNUTZEN1
A: ausnutz
A: HIN-UND-HER1*
A: RÜGEN1
A: rü{gen}
A: ||KURVE1^*
A: ||$GEST-OFF^*
A: I can’t even imagine anymore that all of that was completely shut off by a wall.
A: ZURÜCK2
A: wie{der} zurück
A: MAUER1B
A: mau{er}
A: ||ICH1
A: vorstellung
A: ||VORSTELLUNG1A*
A: ||ICH1
A: $GEST-NM-KOPFSCHÜTTELN1^
A: [MG]
A: How about you?
B: Back to the solidarity surcharge.
A: ||$GEST-BITTE1^*
A: [MG]
B: $INDEX1
B: ICH1
B: solidaritätszuschlag
B: SOLIDARISCH1A
B: ZUSCHLAG1*
B: $INDEX1
B: I think that’s been enough now.
B: ICH1
B: [MG]
B: MEINUNG1B
B: mein
B: $INDEX1
B: ENTWICKELN1B
B: [MG]
B: WEG-VERSCHWINDEN1*
B: [MG]
B: It should just be changed already, based on the argument that one already pays enough wage tax.
B: VERÄNDERN1A*
B: [MG]
B: GENUG2
B: genug
B: lohnsteuer
B: LOHN1
B: STEUER1
B: $INDEX1
B: INHALT3
B: [MG]
B: One just takes some of the money to push the economy further, or constructions.
B: SACHE2
B: [MG]
B: ABZIEHEN-GELD1
B: [MG]
B: re{gierung} wirtschaft
B: WIRTSCHAFT1B
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: bau
B: BAU1
B: AUF-OFFEN1
B: I think it’s enough to take some of that out.
B: BAU1
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX1
B: genug
B: GENUG2
B: $INDEX1
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: Why pay a surcharge?
B: $NUM-EINER1A:2d
B: ||$NUM-EINER1A:2d
B: was
B: $PROD*
B: WAS1A*
B: wieso
B: WIESO2
B: $INDEX1
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
C: You expected it to be over after ten years, but one still pays the solidarity surcharge today.
A: To keep supporting the country, supporting it further.
A: ABER1*
A: aber
A: ||FÜR1*
A: für
A: ||LAND3A
A: land
A: FÖRDERN1B
A: förder
A: ||WEITER1A
A: weiter
A: FÖRDERN1B
A: förder
A: I think not just the east but also the west.
A: ||OSTEN1A
A: ost
A: ||AUCH1A
A: auch
A: ||WESTEN1A
A: west
A: ||LAND1A
A: ICH2
A: $GEST-OFF^
A: I’ve never thought about it, but one could abolish it, sure.
A: ||ICH1
A: ||MERKEN2
A: merk
A: ||DENKEN1B
A: ABSCHAFFEN1
A: [MG]
A: $GEST-NM-SCHULTERZUCKEN1^
A: [MG]
A: $GEST-OFF^
A: [MG]
A: You could protest.
A: ||$INDEX1*
A: ||PROTEST1
A: protest
A: One person protesting isn’t enough; everybody has to do it.
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||ERSTENS1C
A: erst
A: ||PROTEST1
A: pro{test}
A: $NUM-EINER1A:1d||KANN1
A: ||WENN1A*
A: ||ALLE1A*
A: ||PROTEST1
A: pro{test}
A: The German government stays out of it; they’re smart.
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ZURÜCKHALTEN3
A: ||DEUTSCH1
A: deutsch
A: ||$INDEX1
A: REGIERUNG1
A: regierung
A: schlau
A: ||SCHLAU1
A: ||$INDEX1
A: If the government sees that there is no protest, they just keep going.
A: REGIERUNG1
A: ||BIS1
A: bis
A: ||PROTEST1*
A: protest
A: ||$GEST-OFF^*
A: [MG]
A: ||$PROD*
A: [MG]
C: The people who lived in the west used to think that there were no unemployed people in the east. The people who lived in the east, on the other hand, though that the west was horrible. That people there were lazy and would only beg. That’s what they told me. When the wall fell, they though “Oh, none of it is true. They have it a lot better.” People in the west thought similarly, that they had no unemployed people over there. Have you ever heard anything about that? Have you ever heard about the Stasi forcing people to work?
B: No, I don’t know about that.
A: No, that’s completely new to me. I’ve never heard anything about that.
B: SELBST1A
B: [MG]
B: NICHTS1A*
B: [MG] nichts
A: ICH1
A: ||NEU1A
A: neu
A: THEMA1
A: thema
A: $INDEX1
A: ||NEU1A
A: neu
A: ||WISSEN-NICHT2*
A: ||$GEST-OFF^*
A: ||WISSEN-NICHT2*
A: ||$GEST-OFF^*
B: No, I’m also hearing it for the first time.
B: FÜR1*
B: für
B: MERKWÜRDIG1
B: [MG]
C: Yes, yes. They always thought the west was horrible, that everything smelled bad and everyone was begging in the streets. The east was supposedly a lot better. That was the goal. That information was spread so people wouldn’t try to flee.
B: FÜR1*
B: für
B: NICHTS1A*
B: nichts
B: Well, it’s like this/
B: grund
B: GRUND4A
B: ICH1
B: After the wall had fallen, many eastern Germans said the west was beautiful.
B: DDR4
B: d-d-r
B: m{auer}fall
B: MAUERFALL2
B: REIN-HINEIN2
B: westdeutschland
B: $ALPHA1:W
B: DEUTSCH1*
B: LAND1A*
B: BEGEISTERT1*
B: [MG]
B: SCHÖN1A
B: schön
B: Everything was new, clean and looked after.
B: SCHÖN3
B: schön
B: SAUBER1
B: sau{ber}
B: WASSER3A
B: [MG]
B: PFLEGE1
B: pfle{ge}
B: Everything was blooming in the street. It surprised them a lot.
B: STRASSE1*
B: stra{ße}
B: $PROD*
B: [MG]
B: TOLL1A*
B: [MG]
B: In the east, many things were quite run down.
B: [MG]
B: SEHEN1
B: $INDEX1
B: ostdeutsch
B: $ALPHA1:O
B: DEUTSCH1*
B: SCHLIMM3A*
B: schlimm
B: WIE7A*
B: wie
B: $PROD*
B: [MG]
B: The streets had huge potholes in them; it wasn’t nice to look at.
B: STRASSE1
B: str{aße}
B: LOCH1A*
B: löcher
B: SCHAM4
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
B: That was it. I didn’t hear anything else.
B: SEHR6
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: FERTIG1B
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: Other than that, I don’t know anything on the topic of work and what they thought about the differences.
A: But/
A: ABER1*
A: aber
B: ÜBER1
B: üb{er}
B: ARBEITEN1
B: a{rbeit}
B: MEHR1
B: mehr
B: unterschied
B: UNTERSCHIED2*
B: $INDEX1
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
B: NICHTS1A
B: nichts
A: But I would say that, on average, the GDR is 20 to 30 years behind Germany in development.
A: ||ICH1
A: aber
A: ||SEHEN1
A: [MG]
A: WENIG7B
A: [MG]
A: ||DURCHSCHNITT1A
A: DEUTSCH1
A: deutsch
A: ||VORSPRUNG1
A: vor
A: ||AUF-PERSON1
A: auf
A: d-d-r
A: ||DDR4
A: ||BEREICH1A
A: ||LOHN1*
A: ||$NUM-ZEHNER2A:2d
A: zwanzig
A: ||$NUM-ZEHNER2A:3d
A: dreißig
A: ||JAHR1A
A: jahr
A: UNTERSCHIED2*
A: ||RÜCKSTAND1*
A: rück{stand}
A: I mean, in life/
A: ||ICH2
A: LEBEN1C*
A: lebe
A: $GEST-OFF^
A: [MG]
A: I don’t feel like they’re jealous.
A: ||NEID2B
A: neidisch
A: ||ICH1
A: MERKEN2
A: merk
A: $GEST-OFF^
A: No, those who I’ve talked to thought it was good here/
A: ||ICH1
A: UNTERHALTUNG1
A: unterhalt
A: GUT1*
A: [MG]
A: But it had supposedly been good there as well.
A: [MG]
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||GUT1*
A: Especially because of the educational system.
A: ICH1
A: $INDEX1
A: WAS-BEDEUTET1*
A: was
A: NUR2B
A: nur
A: bildungssystem
A: ||BILDUNG1
A: SYSTEM3B
A: Since there was so much funding there that didn’t exist here. That’s the difference.
A: WAS-BEDEUTET1*
A: was
A: ||$INDEX1
A: [MG]
A: ||INTERESSE1B
A: interessant
A: ||VIEL1A*
A: viel
A: FÖRDERN1B
A: förder
A: ||GUT3
A: [MG]
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||NICHT4
A: ||UNTERSCHIED1C*
A: unterschiedlich
A: I don’t know if they had more fun or if it was interesting there.
A: ||INTERESSE1B
A: interesse
A: ||SPASS1
A: spaß
A: ||ICH1
A: ||WISSEN-NICHT1*
A: [MG]
C: I had a deaf friend in the east who was in contact with his uncle in the west. He sent them things like shirts with gold buttons and cans. We would just throw them away nowadays. But my friend put them up and collected them. They liked that a lot. Today, they would also throw those things away. Have you been told things like that, as well?
A: Yes, that was completely normal.
A: NORMAL1*
A: JA1A*
A: ja
A: I heard from someone that they were a big fan of German chocolate.
A: erzähl
A: ERZÄHLEN4
A: $INDEX1
A: MEISTENS1A
A: [MG]
A: SCHOKOLADE2
A: schoko
A: ||FAN2
A: [MG]
A: deutschland
A: ||DEUTSCH1
A: ||HIER1*
A: They had an uncle in the west.
A: ||PERSON1*
A: [MG]
A: ||$INDEX1
A: onkel
A: ONKEL9*
A: ||$INDEX1
A: It was still during the time when the countries were separated.
A: ||FRÜHER1
A: früher
A: ZEIT7B*
A: zeit
A: ||HALB1A*
A: halb
A: TRENNEN1A
A: The two of them stayed in contact.
A: ||NOCH5
A: noch
A: kontakt
A: KONTAKT2A
A: ||BEIDE1*
A: They were then usually sent chocolate.
A: ||MEISTENS1A*
A: [MG]
A: schockolade
A: SCHOKOLADE2*
A: ||SCHICKEN2
A: And now, it gets interesting: A package was being prepared and sent off.
A: INTERESSE1B
A: paket
A: PAKET1*
A: ||PACKEN2*
A: saub
A: ||SAUBER1
A: GEBEN-STAPEL1^*
A: It was checked at the border; everything was inspected closely.
A: grenze
A: GRENZE1A
A: ||KONTROLLE1
A: ||AB1D*
A: ab ab ab
A: $PROD*
A: Then, it was resealed and brought to the recipient.
A: wieder zurück
A: ZURÜCK2
A: GEBEN-STAPEL1^
A: ||$INDEX1
A: heimat
A: ||BEREICH1B^
A: GEBEN-STAPEL1^
A: Once receiving the package, one immediately saw the tear and knew that it had been checked.
A: GEBEN-STAPEL1^
A: [MG]
A: ||$PROD*
A: [MG]
A: ||HEISSEN4
A: heißt
A: ||GEWESEN2
A: gewe{sen}
A: ||ÖFFNEN7*
A: auf
A: ||KONTROLLE1
A: kontroll
A: One couldn’t know whether it was still filled completely as it were before.
A: ||OB4
A: ob
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||WISSEN2B
A: weiß
A: $ORAL^
A: ob
A: ||VOLL1
A: voll
A: NICHT3B
A: oder
A: There was quite the possibility that someone had taken something out.
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||KANN1
A: kann
A: ||WEGNEHMEN2
A: [MG]
A: ||$PROD*
A: Or whether the letters had been inspected, things like that.
A: $ORAL^
A: oder
A: brief
A: BRIEF1A
A: $PROD*
A: ||$GEST-OFF^*
A: [MG]
A: A weird approach.
A: MERKWÜRDIG3
A: [MG]
A: SO1A
A: so
A: It was possible that one only found out something had been taken out of the package after visiting the sender.
A: ||BESUCHEN1A
A: besuch
A: UNTERHALTUNG3*
A: unterhalt
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||ICH1
A: ||VIEL5
A: viel
A: ||FEHLEN2
A: fehlt
A: ||AUFZÄHLEN1C
A: heißt
A: ||HEISSEN4*
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||KLAUEN1
A: [MG]
A: But there was no way to complain.
A: ||ABER1
A: aber
A: PETZEN1
A: [MG]
A: ||MÖGLICH2*
A: If one had complained, one would’ve immediately gone to prison. Horrible, really.
A: ||PETZEN1
A: [MG]
A: ||MUSS1
A: muss
A: ||GEFÄNGNIS2
A: gefängnis
A: ||SCHLIMM3D*
A: schlimm
A: The west was different.
A: ||ICH1
A: west
A: ||WESTEN1A
A: ||$INDEX1
A: One could make demands without suffering consequences if the police had stolen something.
A: ||ICH1
A: $GEST-NM-KOPFNICKEN1^
A: [MG]
A: ||FORDERN1
A: [MG]
A: ||WER6*
A: wer
A: gemacht
A: ||MACHEN3*
A: ||$INDEX1
A: postträger
A: ||POST2
A: ||TRAGEN1
A: ||KLAUEN1
A: klau
A: One did not have any disadvantages because of it/
A: schad
A: SCHADEN1
A: $INDEX1*
A: ||$INDEX1
A: $GEST-NM-KOPFSCHÜTTELN1^
A: Nobody said anything in the GDR because everyone was scared of the consequences.
A: ||DDR4
A: d-d-r
A: ||NICHTS-DAZU-SAGEN1
A: FERTIG4
A: ||ANGST1
A: angst
A: HEMMUNG1A
A: That was the difference.
A: UNTERSCHIED1C
A: untersch{ied}
B: Und/
B: UND5
B: und
B: $INDEX1
B: Well, I live in an apartment in a tenement.
B: ICH1*
B: HAUS1B
B: haus
B: ICH1
B: miet
B: MIETE2
B: WOHNUNG6A*
B: I have a good relationship with the neighbour living on the floor below me.
B: nachbar
B: NACHBAR2B
B: $PROD*
B: ICH1
B: [MG]
B: GUT1
B: [MG]
B: We really trust each other.
B: VERTRAUEN1
B: vertrau
B: ICH1
B: [MG]
B: STARK2B
B: [MG]
B: We help each other out with problems, or repapering, stuff like that.
B: HELFEN1*
B: hel{fen}
B: problem
B: PROBLEM2A*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: ICH1
B: HELFEN1*
B: hel{fen}
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
B: HELFEN1*
B: [MG]
B: TAPEZIEREN1*
B: tapet
B: HELFEN1
B: hel{fen}
B: Even when there’s something to do in the garden, or just any problems in general.
B: ICH1
B: garten
B: GARTEN12A
B: DORT1
B: problem
B: PROBLEM2A*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: Or when I forgot to buy some groceries, I can ask him to lend me something.
B: ICH1
B: [LM:ah]
B: VERGESSEN1
B: verge{ssen}
B: LASSEN2A*
B: [MG]
B: ICH2
B: GEBEN1*
B: [MG]
B: He then gives me something to eat or drink and I return it to him later on.
B: TRINKEN1*
B: trink
B: ESSEN2
B: ess
B: GEBEN1*
B: geb
B: SPÄTER6
B: ZURÜCK2*
B: zurück
B: We have kept a great relationship until today.
B: ES-LÄUFT1
B: [MG]
B: BIS-HEUTE2
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-ÜBERLEGEN1^*
B: Well, he/
B: $INDEX1
B: [MG]
B: SELBST2
B: [MG]
B: $NUM-EINER1A:2d*
B: [MG]
B: $$EXTRA-LING-MAN^
B: What was it again/
B: $INDEX1
B: ZUSAMMENHANG3
B: [MG]
B: Well, his wife‘s brother, or the sister, I’m not sure.
B: $NUM-EINER1B:1
B: ein
B: $INDEX1*
B: EHEFRAU1*
B: ||$INDEX1
B: frau
B: SELBST2
B: selbst
B: $INDEX1
B: BRUDER1A*
B: bruder
B: ODER1*
B: od{er}
B: SCHWESTER1A
B: schwes{ter}
B: ICH1
B: [MG]
B: KONKURRENZ1^
B: [MG]
B: Or the niece? I don’t really know, ah, whatever.
B: WELCHE2*
B: we{lche}
B: NEFFE1
B: neffe
B: UND-SO-WEITER5*
B: [MG]
B: ICH1
B: ich
B: WISSEN2A
B: weiß
B: GENAU1
B: genau
B: ICH2
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: $$EXTRA-LING-MAN^
B: $GEST-ABWINKEN1^
B: [MG]
B: Anyway, they came to visit once in three years.
B: $INDEX1
B: [MG]
B: SELBST2
B: [MG]
B: REGELMÄSSIG2
B: [MG]
B: $NUM-EINER1A:1
B: JAHR1A*
B: jahr
B: EINMAL1A
B: einmal
B: BESUCHEN1B*
B: besuch
B: They visited them every two years.
B: JAHR1A*
B: zwei jahr
B: $NUM-EINER1A:1d
B: einmal
B: BESUCHEN1B
B: besuch
B: That was the regulation, that’s how it went.
B: JAHR1A*
B: zwei
B: BESUCHEN1B
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX1
B: [MG]
B: VORSCHRIFT1B
B: ABLAUF1B
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: I was still quite young and communicating was a little difficult.
B: $$EXTRA-LING-MAN^
B: [MG]
B: ICH1
B: KLEIN3
B: ICH1
B: KOMMUNIKATIONSDEFIZIT1
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
B: My parents tried to explain it a little.
B: ALLE1B
B: ELTERN1A
B: el{tern}
B: GESTIK1
B: [MG]
B: I barely understood anything, just seeing them talk like that.
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: ICH2*
B: OFT2B
B: oft
B: GESTIK1*
B: [MG]
B: NEIN1A
B: [MG]
B: ICH1*
B: $INDEX1
B: [MG]
B: WAHRNEHMUNG1*
B: [MG]
B: $GEST^
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
B: I didn’t really know what all of that meant, only the rough context.
B: NICHT3A
B: [MG]
B: VERSTEHEN1
B: [MG]
B: INHALT3
B: in{halt}
B: ICH2*
B: [MG]
B: ungefähr
B: UNGEFÄHR3*
B: WAHRNEHMUNG3
B: UNGEFÄHR1*
B: unge{fähr}
B: They told me that the GDR only gets one shipment of bananas a year.
B: SELBST2
B: [MG]
B: ERZÄHLEN4
B: [MG]
B: SELBST2
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX1
B: [MG]
B: DDR4
B: d-d-r
B: BEREICH1B
B: [MG]
B: NUR2B
B: JAHR1A
B: ein jahr
B: einmal
B: $NUM-EINER1A:1
B: MAL3
B: WISSEN2A
B: [MG]
B: LIEFERN1B*
B: [MG]
B: BANANE2
B: ban{ane} ban{ane}
B: LIEFERN1B*
B: [MG]
B: When they came, everybody was completely ecstatic about the fresh bananas and wanted to buy some.
B: AUSBREITEN2^*
B: [MG]
B: MASSE-PERSON-AKTIV1
B: [MG]
B: ENDLICH2B
B: endlich
B: FRISCH1
B: frisch
B: BANANE2*
B: ba{nane} ba{nane}
B: ENDLICH2B*
B: [MG]
B: KAUFEN1A
B: kaufe
B: Everyone rushed to the bananas and they bought every single one until there were no more.
B: VERRINGERN1A*
B: [MG]
B: DÜNN1A^*
B: [MG]
B: SCHLUSS1
B: [MG]
B: LETZTE1B
B: letzt
B: SCHLUSS1
B: [MG]
B: It only happened once a year, that bananas were delivered/
B: JAHR3B*
B: ein jahr
B: DANN1A*
B: wied{er}
B: WIEDER2A*
B: WIEDER1A
A: Where was that? In a city? A big city?
B: BANANE2*
B: banane
A: WO1A
A: wo
B: LIEFERN1B*
A: ||STADT2
A: stadt
B: In the whole GDR.
B: d-d-r
B: DDR4
A: großstadt
A: GROSS3B
B: BEREICH1A
A: ||STADT2
B: Yes, in some of the cities.
A: Everywhere? Oh, right.
B: großstadt
B: GROSS3B
A: ||DIALEKT1^
A: [MG]
B: STADT2
B: ORT1A*
B: [MG]
A: $GEST-NM-KOPFNICKEN1^
B: Once a year, fresh bananas were delivered.
B: LIEFERN1B*
B: [MG]
B: $NUM-EINER1A:1d
B: einmal
B: BANANE2*
B: ban{ane}
B: Everyone was really excited and dug into them until none were left.
B: FRISCH1*
B: frisch
B: AUSBREITEN2^*
B: [MG]
B: GREIFEN4
B: [MG]
B: AUS-ZU1
B: [MG]
B: DÜNN1A^*
B: SCHLUSS1
B: Just once a year. They were incredibly frugal.
B: JAHR1A*
B: ein
B: BESCHEIDEN1B
B: [MG]
B: I was stunned because here in West Germany it looked totally different.
B: ICH1
B: SEHEN-AUF2*
B: was
B: HIER1
B: westdeutsch{land}
B: $ALPHA1:W
B: DEUTSCH1*
B: SEHEN1
B: seh
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: Here, bananas are bought and then, new ones are ordered and stocked up on again.
B: AUS-ZU1*
B: [MG]
B: BESTELLEN1A*
B: bestell
B: LIEFERN1B*
B: AUFGEHEN-MASSE1B
B: [MG]
B: That’s how it goes.
B: AUS-ZU1
B: [MG]
B: AUFGEHEN-MASSE1B
B: [MG]
B: ABLAUF1A
B: [MG]
B: Depending on where it is warm at the time, more produce are being grown there.
B: GRUND4A
B: grund
B: $PROD*
B: erde
B: HALB7*
B: halb
B: $INDEX1
B: SÜDEN1B
B: WECHSELN3A
B: wechsel
B: WARM1A
B: warm
B: $PROD*
B: WISSEN2B
B: [MG]
B: ABLAUF1A
B: [MG]
B: The east was different.
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX1
B: NICHT3A
B: When they told me that, I was surprised and asked what it was like with the fruit there, what kind of choices they had.
B: [MG]
B: ICH2
B: SEHEN-AUF2
B: GUT1^
B: baff
B: WAHR2*
B: was
B: SO1A*
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: SEIN-IHR1
B: SO1A*
B: so
B: SEIN-IHR1
B: SEHEN1*
B: wie sieht aus
B: OBST3
B: obst
B: They said there were quite a few things, things that were produced in the GDR.
B: $INDEX1
B: auch
B: HABEN-EXISTIEREN1
B: [MG]
B: SELBSTVERSTÄNDLICH1A
B: selbst{verständlich}
B: WIE4A*
B: wie
B: $ORAL^
B: stadt
B: DDR4
B: d-d
B: HABEN-EXISTIEREN1
B: [MG]
B: $NUM-ZEHNER2A:3d
B: bauer
B: BAUER1
B: BEREICH1A
B: LAND1A
B: land{wirt}schaft
B: [MG]
B: $PROD*
B: BEREICH1A
B: Things that grow on the trees there, like apples, pears, cherries.
B: HABEN-EXISTIEREN1
B: [MG]
B: $PROD*
B: apfel
B: APFEL2
B: ap{fel}
B: HABEN-EXISTIEREN1
B: [MG]
B: BIRNE-$KANDIDAT-BER03^*
B: birn
B: $GEST-ÜBERLEGEN1^
B: KIRSCHE1
B: kirsch
B: Same thing for the east and west.
B: HABEN-EXISTIEREN1*
B: [MG]
B: DASSELBE3*
B: selbe
B: VERGLEICH1C*
B: [MG]
B: BEREICH1A
B: [MG]
B: But there weren’t any bananas.
B: aber
B: ABER1*
B: BANANE3*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
B: ES-GIBT2
B: gibt
B: NICHT3A*
B: nicht
B: HIER1*
B: hier
B: NICHT3A*
B: They were only available elsewhere.
B: and{ers}
B: ANDERS2
B: WEG-FORT1
B: I thought it was incredible but tried not to let it show and just said, “Oh, okay.”
B: DARUM1*
B: darum
B: [LM:ah]
B: ICH1
B: SEHEN-AUF2
B: ACH-SO1
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: [MG]
B: And a second thing; when someone visited [western] Germany, he went to the hardware store.
B: $GEST^
B: ||UND5*
B: und
B: $LIST1:2of2*
B: PERSON1
B: $INDEX1
B: [MG]
B: BESUCHEN2*
B: [MG]
B: HIER1
B: [MG]
B: DEUTSCH1*
B: deutsch
B: deutschland
B: DEUTSCH1*
B: LAND1A*
B: WIE3B*
B: baumarkt
B: BAU1
B: MARKT6
B: MARKT3
B: To Hornbach or Hellweg [German hardware store chains] or something like that.
B: HÖRNER1A*
B: hornerbach
B: ODER1
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: $ALPHA1:H-E-W-L-L-W-E-G
B: hellweg
B: ODER1*
B: [MG]
B: VERSCHIEDEN2A*
B: [MG]
B: He saw a lawnmower there.
B: $INDEX1
B: ER-SIE-ES1
B: er
B: PLÖTZLICH4*
B: [MG]
B: ERBLICKEN2
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX1
B: [MG]
B: MÄHEN1
B: $INDEX1
B: rasenmähe
B: RASEN3
B: MÄHEN2
B: MÄHEN1
B: They loved that.
B: ERBLICKEN2
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX1
B: $PROD*
B: $INDEX1
B: $PROD*
B: I asked, “Daddy, what’s going on?”
B: ICH2
B: [MG]
B: ||$GEST-ÜBERLEGEN1^
B: [MG]
B: ||$GEST-AUFMERKSAMKEIT1^
B: [MG]
B: ||ICH2
B: papa
B: ||PAPA6*
B: ||ANSPRECHEN2*
B: ||$INDEX1
B: was
B: He said, “I don’t know either, wait, wait.”
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-NM-SCHULTERZUCKEN1^
B: $GEST^
B: ||MOMENT2*
B: moment moment
B: I said, “Ok!”
B: ||ICH1
B: ich
B: ||SEHEN-AUF2*
B: [MG]
B: OKAY1A
B: o-k
B: They looked at it closely and talked to one another.
B: $PROD*
B: [MG]
B: $PROD*
B: $INDEX1*
B: [MG]
B: SPRECHEN6*
B: [MG]
B: I didn’t really know what was going in.
B: ICH1*
B: SCHAUEN1*
B: [MG]
B: VERWIRRT-SEIN1*
B: ICH2
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
B: ETWAS-NICHT-MITBEKOMMEN1
B: [MG]
B: ICH2*
B: INTERAKTION1
B: Then they said that the company used to build that in the GDR.
B: ||$INDEX1
B: [MG]
B: ||SAGEN1
B: $INDEX1
B: ||FRÜHER1
B: früher
B: ||DDR4
B: d-d-r
B: ||FIRMA1A*
B: firma
B: ||$INDEX1
B: ||FIRMA1A
B: I asked, “What does that mean, used to?”
B: [MG]
B: MEINUNG1B
B: DEIN1
B: FRÜHER1
B: früher
B: “No, no, not used to, the company builds them in the GDR.”
B: $INDEX1
B: [MG]
B: $GEST^
B: $GEST-ABWINKEN1^
B: FRÜHER1
B: früher
B: NEIN1A
B: [MG]
B: DDR4
B: d-d-r
B: $INDEX1
B: FIRMA1A
B: firma
B: $INDEX1*
B: [MG]
B: I asked whether it was constructed in the GDR.
B: $ORAL^
B: [LM:ah]
B: meinst
B: MEINUNG1B
B: DEIN1
B: DDR4
B: d-d-r
B: firma
B: FIRMA1A
B: $INDEX1
B: MÄHEN2*
B: rasenmähen
B: RASEN3
B: MÄHEN2*
B: BAU1
B: bau
B: KOMPLETT1*
B: [MG]
B: They said, “Yes.”
B: JA1A
B: ja
B: I said, “Oh, okay.” and thought it was normal.
B: ||ICH1*
B: [MG]
B: ||SEHEN-AUF2*
B: ||ICH2
B: ||VERSTEHEN1
B: versteh
B: ||$GEST-OFF^*
B: [MG]
B: NORMAL1
B: normal
B: I asked whether that was normal.
B: ||$INDEX1
B: ||FRAGE1*
B: f{ragen}
B: ||$GEST-AUFMERKSAMKEIT1^*
B: [MG]
B: ||SAGEN1*
B: ||NORMAL1
B: “No, no.“, they said.
B: NEIN1A
B: nein
B: In the GDR, the lawnmower looked completely different, way more simplistic.
B: $INDEX1
B: MÄHEN1
B: [MG]
B: EINFACH1
B: [MG]
B: $PROD*
B: [MG]
B: Very crude, no colour or nice designs.
B: BAU1
B: [MG]
B: EINFACH1
B: [MG]
B: WIE3B
B: [MG]
B: KEIN1*
B: kei{n}
B: FARBE1A*
B: farb
B: $PROD*
B: [MG]
B: SCHÖN3*
B: schön
B: NICHT4
B: nicht
B: The lawnmower got delivered to [western] Germany; its design was altered so it looked nicer and got sold more easily.
B: TRANSPORT2B*
B: $INDEX1
B: FARBE1A
B: far{be}
B: DAZU1*
B: [MG]
B: SCHÖN3
B: schö{n}
B: SEHEN1
B: aus{sehen}
B: BEKANNT1A^*
B: So that, in [western] Germany, people would go into the store and think, “That looks nice, I’ll buy it.”
B: $GEST^
B: [LM:ah]
B: DEUTSCH1*
B: deutsch
B: WIMMELN1*
B: [MG]
B: $ORAL^
B: [LM:ah]
B: schö{n}
B: SEHEN1
B: SCHÖN1A
B: SCHÖN3
B: KAUFEN1A
B: kaufen
B: MÄHEN1
B: [MG]
B: The relative knew the shape and realized it was the same lawnmower as the one in the GDR.
B: $INDEX1
B: SELBST2
B: [MG]
B: KENNEN1A
B: kenn
B: FORM1A
B: form
B: BESSER1
B: [MG]
B: DDR4
B: dieselb
B: DASSELBE3*
B: $INDEX1
B: Over there, it had a very simple design, completely grey.
B: $INDEX1
B: EINFACH1
B: [MG]
B: WIE3A
B: wie
B: GRAU30
B: grau
B: far{be}
B: FARBE1A*
B: $PROD*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: EINFACH1
B: [MG]
B: Here, in [western] Germany, it was different, a lot more colourful.
B: [MG]
B: LIEFERN1B*
B: HIER1
B: DEUTSCH1*
B: deutsch
B: FARBE1A
B: far{be}
B: DAZU1*
B: [MG]
B: HÜBSCH1A
B: hübsch
B: FARBE1A
B: far{be}
B: I was surprised, really interesting, to see how that all went.
B: ICH1
B: SEHEN-AUF2
B: [MG]
B: INTERESSE1A
B: in{teressant}
B: wuss
B: WISSEN-NICHT2*
B: ICH1*
A: One says that the handiwork in the GDR was supposedly really great.
B: ABLAUF1A
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
A: ||SAGEN1
A: HÖREN2
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||DDR4
A: d-d-r
A: ||GUT1
A: handarbeit
A: ||HAND1A
A: ||ARBEITEN1*
A: sehr gut
A: ||GUT1
A: ||GUT3
A: And the things that were produced there usually kept for a long time.
A: motor
A: ||MOTOR1B
A: INEINANDERGREIFEN1B^*
A: ||LEBEN1C*
A: leben
A: LANG1A*
A: lang
A: Here, in the [western] German factories, everything was manufactured a lot more carelessly, so that it broke down a lot faster and one had to throw it away.
A: ||DEUTSCH1*
A: [MG]
A: ||HIER1
A: fabrik
A: FABRIK3*
A: FABRIK6
A: PACKEN2*
A: ||WEG-ENTFERNEN1A
A: KAPUTT4
A: kaputt
A: ||WEG-ENTFERNEN1A
A: [MG]
A: In the east, everything kept a lot longer.
A: LANG1A*
A: lang
A: Somebody moved in next to us back then.
A: ||AUCH3A
A: auch
A: ||$NUM-EINER1A:1d
A: ein
A: HAUS1B
A: haus
A: ||NEBEN1A
A: neben
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||FRÜHER1
A: früher
A: ||UMZIEHEN1*
A: umziehen
A: $INDEX1*
A: He came with an old Trabant.
A: AUCH1A
A: AUTO1
A: auto
A: $PROD*
A: trab{ant}
A: ||ALT2C
A: alt
A: auto
A: AUTO1*
A: ||$INDEX1*
A: He told me about his car.
A: ||ER-SIE-ES2
A: ERZÄHLEN3A*
A: erzähl
A: ||ER-SIE-ES2
A: ||SAGEN1
A: [MG]
A: I asked him what it had cost.
A: ||$INDEX1
A: WIE-FRAGE-VERGLEICH1*
A: wie
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||KAUFEN1A
A: kauf
A: KOSTEN2
A: wie teu{er}
A: He said that back in the GDR, people had very little money.
A: $GEST-ÜBERLEGEN3^
A: [MG]
A: FRÜHER1
A: früher
A: REICH7
A: DDR4
A: d-d-r
A: REICH7
A: reich
A: SELTEN1
A: selten
A: At first, he had to save money for it.
A: $PROD*
A: ||SAGEN1
A: ||SPAREN2
A: spar
A: If one wanted to buy the car, one didn’t immediately receive it.
A: ||$GEST-OFF^*
A: [MG]
A: ||KAUFEN1A
A: kaufen
A: ||SOFORT2B
A: sofort
A: ER-SIE-ES2
A: ||SAGEN2B*
A: One had to order it even before one got one’s driving license.
A: ||BESTELLEN1A
A: bestell
A: führerschein
A: ||FÜHRERSCHEIN1
A: ||GEBEN-FESTHALTEN1A*
A: One had to register long before that.
A: VORHER1*
A: vorher
A: BESCHEID2
A: ICH1
A: Ten/
A: $NUM-EINER1A:10
A: Between order and delivery, there were ten years.
A: ||BESTELLEN1A
A: bestell
A: AUTO1*
A: auto
A: ||LIEFERN1B
A: ||BRAUCHEN1
A: brauch
A: ||$NUM-JAHR-NACH-JETZT1:10
A: zehn jahr
A: It took ten years.
A: ZEIT1
A: zeit
A: ||BRAUCHEN1*
A: brauch
A: ||$NUM-JAHR-NACH-JETZT1:10
A: zehn jahr
A: Once it was actually delivered, the steering wheel was missing.
A: IMMER4A
A: immer
A: endlich
A: ||ENDLICH2A
A: ||LIEFERN1B*
A: OHNE1
A: ohne
A: $PROD*
A: lenkrad
A: One needed to contact them again, some things had to be checked and confirmed.
A: ||NOCHMAL2B
A: noch mal
A: ||BESCHEID2
A: meld
A: ||ZEUGE6^*
A: [MG]
A: ||FERTIG2*
A: It was only after that whole procedure that one finally received the car keys.
A: OKAY1A*
A: okay
A: VERLAUF1*
A: [MG]
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||SAGEN1
A: ERLEDIGEN1B
A: erl{edigt}
A: schlüssel
A: ||SCHLÜSSEL-TÜR1
A: ICH2
A: DA1
A: da
A: It was impossible to flee.
A: $INDEX1
A: ||FLUCHT1B
A: flucht
A: ||MÖGLICH1*
A: [MG]
A: One got the steering wheel and was able to drive.
A: ||$INDEX1
A: $PROD*
A: START1A
A: start
A: AUTO-FAHREN2*
A: fahr
A: By then, 12 or 13 years had passed.
A: BRAUCHEN1*
A: brauch
A: GESAMT1A
A: insgesamt
A: ||$NUM-TEEN1:2d
A: zwölf
A: ||$NUM-TEEN1:3d
A: dreizehn
A: ||JAHR1A*
A: jahr
A: That’s how it was, not like in Germany, where everyone was free.
A: $ORAL^
A: war
A: SO1A
A: so
A: ||ICH1
A: ||DEUTSCH1
A: deutsch
A: ||HIER1
A: FREI2A
A: frei
A: Just buy or sell.
A: ||ICH1
A: ||KAUFEN1A
A: kauf
A: $INDEX1
A: VERKAUFEN1
A: verkauf
A: In the east, one had to be frugal and patient.
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||BESCHEIDEN1A
A: [MG]
A: First, saving all that money, then signing up for the driving lessons, then getting the driving license, and even then it still took a lot of time.
A: ||HEISSEN4
A: heißt
A: ||GELD1A
A: geld
A: ||$PROD*
A: [MG]
A: ||BESCHEID2
A: meld
A: ||HEISSEN4
A: heißt
A: ||ALT5A*
A: a{lt}
A: ||FÜHRERSCHEIN1
A: führ{erschein}
A: ||ALT5A
A: alt
A: ||SPÄT3A*
A: spät spät spät
A: I think all of that is very interesting.
A: interessant
A: ||INTERESSE1B
A: ||GEHÖREN1^
A: $GEST-NM-KOPFNICKEN1^
A: [MG]
C: We’re used to cars just continuously being delivered here. There, it was different. It took a long time until your car was finally there. If you wanted a new one, it took very long, again. Friends from the east, who then came to the west, said, “Great, everything goes so fast here, you always get everything immediately.” In the east, one had to wait for ages. That’s what eastern politics were like. They were always very strict; everything was regulated. Here, in the west, it was completely different. Here, one had the possibility to vote for different parties. In the east, there was just the one. What do you think?
B: Of course, one didn’t have democratic liberties there.
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
B: kein
B: KEIN6*
B: KEIN1
B: DEMOKRATIE3
B: demo{kratie}
B: FREI2B
B: frei
B: NICHTS1B
B: [MG]
B: I prefer there to be different opinions and directions, parties that compete against one another.
B: [MG]
B: ICH1
B: MÖGEN3
B: KANDIDAT1
B: kandi{da}tur
B: meinung
B: MEINUNG1B
B: UNTERSCHIED2
B: ICH1
B: [MG]
B: Their opinion about the future matters to me.
B: ICH2
B: ich
B: GEFALLEN1
B: gefällt
B: GUT1
B: [MG]
B: MEINUNG1B
B: mein{ung}
B: WICHTIG1*
B: ZUKUNFT2
B: zukunft
B: WICHTIG1
B: wich{tig}
B: If their goals fit mine, I vote for them.
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-NM-KOPFNICKEN1^
B: ICH1*
B: ziel
B: ZIEL2
B: $INDEX1
B: WAHL1A
B: wahl
B: STIMMT2*
B: stimmt
B: Something like in the east, having to say yes and amen to everything - I wouldn’t be happy with only walking on predetermined paths.
B: $INDEX4
B: [MG]
B: DORTHIN-GEHEN2
B: [MG]
B: WAHL1A
B: [MG]
B: STIMMT1B
B: stimmt
B: ICH1
B: [MG]
B: LEBEN1C
B: le{ben}
B: ZUFRIEDEN4*
B: zufrieden
B: NICHT3A
B: [MG]
B: WEG2A
B: weg
C: In the east, one had no choice but to vote for the one party.
B: $GEST^
B: [MG]
A: People were forced to do it.
A: ||WENN1A
A: ||ZWANG1*
A: zwang
A: They were forced.
A: ||WENN1A
A: ||ZWANG1*
A: [MG]
A: If people in the east had tried to vote freely and someone had found out, they would have been imprisoned immediately.
A: vielleicht
A: ||VIELLEICHT1*
A: ||$INDEX1*
A: ||WISSEN2A
A: weiß
A: wenn
A: ||WENN1A
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||OSTEN1C
A: ost
A: ||MAUERFALL2*
A: ||ICH1
A: ||WAHL1A
A: w{ahl}
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||AUCH3A*
A: auch auch
A: WIE3A
A: wie
A: ||HÖREN1*
A: ||$INDEX1
A: gefängnis
A: ||GEFÄNGNIS3A
A: ||WERFEN1*
A: People were locked up by the Stasi and tortured.
A: stasi
A: ||STASI1A
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||WERFEN1*
A: ||SCHLAGEN1*
A: folter
A: I still remember how, after the wall fell, people found out how much torturing was going on there.
A: ||ICH1
A: weiß nicht
A: ||WISSEN2A
A: ||NICHT3A*
A: MAUERFALL2
A: ||VIEL5
A: viel
A: ||ERFAHREN1B
A: erfahr
A: ||VIEL5
A: viel
A: folt
A: ||SCHLAGEN1*
A: INNEN3
A: ||SCHLAGEN1*
A: folt
A: People usually said that everything was fine.
A: ||SEHEN1*
A: [MG]
A: GUT1*
A: [MG]
A: Torture/
A: ||SCHLAGEN1*
A: folt
A: But many people were suffering.
A: ||$INDEX1
A: leiden
A: LEIDEN1A*
A: ||MENSCH2*
A: Horrible, yes.
A: ||SEHR7
A: [MG]
A: ||$GEST-OFF^*
A: [MG]
B: I just remembered something regarding that story.
B: NOCH4B*
B: noch
B: ACHTUNG1A^*
B: [MG]
B: SCHLAGARTIG-EINFALLEN1
B: [MG]
B: The wall was still up back then.
B: $GEST^
B: GENAU4
B: [MG]
B: NOCH4A
B: noch
B: MAUER1B*
B: mau{er}
B: NOCH4A
B: noch
B: I was in the deaf centre in Dortmund.
B: ICH1*
B: [MG]
B: PLÖTZLICH4*
B: $INDEX1
B: DORTMUND1
B: dortmund
B: gehörlosenzentrum
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: ZENTRUM1A
B: $INDEX1
B: REIN-HINEIN2
B: I was talking to some people, there was quite a lot going on.
B: [MG]
B: ICH2*
B: UNTERHALTUNG2A
B: WIMMELN1
B: Then somebody joined us, a new face.
B: KOMMEN3
B: [MG]
B: WIMMELN1
B: [MG]
B: ICH2
B: UNTERHALTUNG2A*
B: KOMMEN3*
B: [MG]
B: NEU4A
B: neu
B: GESICHT1
B: gesicht
B: [MG]
B: PERSON1*
B: KOMMEN3*
B: I was told that they had fled from the GDR.
B: SAGEN4*
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX1
B: SELBST2
B: selbst
B: DDR4
B: d-d-r
B: SELBST2
B: selbst
B: FLUCHT1B
B: [MG]
B: KOMMEN1*
B: I went, “Fled? What do you mean?”
B: [MG]
B: ICH2*
B: FLUCHT1A
B: WAS-MEINUNG1*
B: meinst du
B: “That’s impossible, when I imagine the wall and the snipers, everything being guarded so well.”
B: [MG]
B: ICH1*
B: NEIN1A
B: FLUCHT1A
B: [MG]
B: GEHEN2A
B: geht
B: NICHT3A*
B: [MG]
B: MAUER1B
B: [MG]
B: SCHARF1A*
B: scharf
B: [MG]
B: SCHIESSEN1F*
B: NEIN1A*
B: That’s what was said about that person.
B: $INDEX1
B: [MG]
B: WIE3B
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
B: ||SAGEN1
B: sagt
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
B: At some point I got to know them and we talked.
B: [MG]
B: ICH2*
B: ALLE1B*
B: ICH2*
B: [MG]
B: TREFFEN2B
B: PROBE2*
B: TREFFEN2B
B: PLÖTZLICH4
B: [MG]
B: ICH2
B: [MG]
B: UNTERHALTUNG2A*
B: [MG]
B: KENNENLERNEN1*
B: kenn{enlernen}
B: SICH-VERSTEHEN1*
B: [MG]
B: UNTERHALTUNG2A*
B: [MG]
B: They spoke about many things very openly. I found that very interesting.
B: VIEL4
B: [MG]
B: ÖFFENTLICH1*
B: off{en} off{en}
B: ICH1*
B: [MG]
B: INTERESSE1A
B: [MG]
B: I said, ”The others say that you fled?”
B: [MG]
B: SAGEN1*
B: $INDEX1
B: [MG]
B: SAGEN1*
B: $INDEX1
B: SAGEN1*
B: FLUCHT1B
B: [MG]
B: They answered, ”No, no, but I got asked so many times that I just started answering I fled to be done with the topic.”
B: NEIN1A
B: [MG]
B: ICH2*
B: [MG]
B: $GEST^
B: [MG]
B: ZEIGEN-AUF1*
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-ABWINKEN1^
B: ICH2*
B: WEG-VERSCHWINDEN1
B: [MG]
B: FLUCHT1A
B: [MG]
B: FERTIG1A
B: [MG]
B: WEG-VERSCHWINDEN1*
B: [MG]
B: “Oh okay, I know what you mean.” I said.
B: ICH2*
B: [MG]
B: meinst
B: WISSEN2B
B: WAS-MEINUNG1
B: They told me they got kicked out.
B: $INDEX1*
B: WIRKLICH2*
B: [MG]
B: AUF-PERSON1
B: [MG]
B: RAUSSCHMEISSEN1*
B: raus
B: I asked, why.
B: ICH2*
B: [MG]
B: WARUM9
B: warum
B: RAUSSCHMEISSEN1*
B: raus
B: They said they just had the courage to voice public criticism.
B: $GEST^
B: [MG]
B: WIE3B
B: $INDEX1
B: DICKES-FELL1
B: HOCHKREMPELN-ÄRMEL1
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: PROTEST1
B: [MG]
B: KRITISIEREN1B*
B: [MG]
B: KRITISIEREN1A
B: [MG]
B: The police had apparently locked them up in the GDR jails a few times, but that person didn’t care.
B: DDR4
B: d-d-r
B: POLIZEI1B*
B: po{lizei}
B: VERHAFTEN2
B: [MG]
B: GEFÄNGNIS3B
B: gefäng{nis}
B: WERFEN1^
B: $INDEX1
B: [MG]
B: BEREIT2A
B: bereit
B: EINTRETEN1A^*
B: SITZEN1A
B: [MG]
B: EGAL3*
B: [MG]
B: Whenever they got out, they protested again, complained and ventilated grievances.
B: SPÄTER4
B: später
B: WIEDER1A*
B: sch{on} wie{der}
B: PROTEST1
B: protest
B: VERSCHIEDEN2B
B: versch{iedene}
B: BESCHWEREN-SICH2
B: [MG]
B: ZEIGEN1A
B: [MG]
B: AKTE2
B: They annoyed them more and more, showed them what was going wrong, and more and more people wanted to follow.
B: $INDEX1
B: NERVEN1A*
B: nerv
B: ENTWICKELN1B*
B: entwick{elt}
B: WIE3A
B: SCHAFFEN1C
B: schaff
B: ZEIGEN1A
B: [MG]
B: WIE3B
B: wie
B: VERGRÖSSERN2*
B: [MG]
B: They showed the problems that were present in the GDR; they were like a role model.
B: an
B: ABER1*
B: UND2A*
B: d-d-r
B: ALLE1A
B: DDR4
B: ICH1*
B: SCHAFFEN1C
B: schaff
B: [MG]
B: ZEIGEN1B
B: ICH1
B: VERGRÖSSERN2*
B: [MG]
B: AUCH1A
B: auch
B: SEHEN1
B: [MG]
A: But they weren’t tortured?
B: WIE3B
B: [MG]
A: $ORAL^
A: aber
B: VORBILD1
B: vorbil{d}
A: ||DURCH2A
A: SCHLAGEN1*
A: folter
A: ||NOCH-NICHT2*
B: No, they didn’t say anything about that.
A: No? There was no torture?
A: ||$INDEX1
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-OFF^
A: SCHLAGEN1
A: folter
A: $GEST-NM-KOPFSCHÜTTELN1^
A: [MG]
B: NICHT3B
B: ERZÄHLEN4*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: The state was concerned that they would become a role model for many, and that the people could start acting up, so they kicked them out.
B: WIE3B
B: VORBILD1
B: vorbild
B: ZEIGEN1A
B: VERGRÖSSERN2
B: [MG]
B: AUCH1A*
B: auch auch
B: MEHR2*
B: [MG]
B: $NUM-EINER1A:1d
B: RAUSSCHMEISSEN1*
B: raus
B: The state didn’t like that. Those kinds of people were kicked out.
B: SEHEN1*
B: [MG]
B: ZEIGEN1A*
B: NICHT3B
B: [MG]
B: WEG-ENTFERNEN1A*
B: weg
B: WIE3A
B: wie
B: WEG-ENTFERNEN1A*
B: weg
B: ||WEG-ENTFERNEN1A*
B: weg
B: VERGANGENHEIT1^*
B: weg
B: UNSICHTBAR1
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-ABWINKEN1^
B: [MG]
B: ICH2*
B: Things like that weren’t supposed to be shown openly; only a neat image was meant to be conveyed.
B: POSITIV1
B: pos{itiv}
B: SAUBER1
B: sauber
B: ORGANISIEREN2A
B: [MG]
B: ENTWICKELN1A*
B: ZEIGEN1B
B: zeigen
B: KEIN8
B: [MG]
B: If someone fought back and started accumulating a crowd, that was dangerous.
B: WIE3B
B: wie
B: FAUST-ZEIGEN1^
B: demo
B: ||$NUM-EINER1A:1d
B: ein
B: ICH1
B: STARK2B
B: [MG]
B: HOCHKREMPELN-ÄRMEL1
B: [MG]
B: VERGRÖSSERN2*
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX1
B: [MG]
B: GEFÄHRLICH1A*
B: gefahr
B: That person was a sort of leader, so they got kicked out.
B: lieber
B: LIEBER1
B: $INDEX1
B: FAUST-ZEIGEN1^
B: $NUM-EINER1A:1d
B: [MG]
B: AKTIV1
B: [MG]
B: selber
B: SELBST2
B: PERSON1
B: RAUSSCHMEISSEN1*
B: raus
B: People weren‘t supposed to be courageous. They were held back, so everyone stayed good.
B: SEHEN-AUF6^*
B: KOMMUNISMUS1
B: kommunist
B: WEG-VERSCHWINDEN1
B: [MG]
B: MUT1*
B: mut
B: WER2
B: wer
B: SCHAUEN3*
B: [MG]
B: KANN1*
B: [MG]
B: SITZEN1A
B: [MG]
B: brav
B: BRAV1B
B: WIMMELN1*
B: They told me that that’s why they were kicked out.
B: $INDEX1
B: ERZÄHLEN4*
B: ICH2
B: [MG]
B: SEHEN1*
B: ERZÄHLEN4
B: $INDEX1
B: RAUSSCHMEISSEN1*
B: raus
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: They were supposed to leave, to go to the west, so that everything would be steadied again. That’s how it went back then.
B: WESTEN1A*
B: west
B: $GEST-ABWINKEN1^*
B: [MG]
B: ALLE3*
B: BRAV1B
B: brav
B: DARUM1
B: darum
B: ENTWICKELN1B
B: [MG]
B: Later on, on TV, I saw that some hearing people were also kicked out.
B: SEHEN2
B: ZEIGEN1A*
B: zeig
B: FERNSEHER1B*
B: fer{nseher}
B: $INDEX1
B: AUCH3A
B: auch
B: AUFZÄHLEN1C
B: [MG]
B: HÖREND1A
B: hörend
B: AUCH3A
B: auch
B: RAUSSCHMEISSEN1*
B: raus
B: $INDEX1||AUFZÄHLEN1C
B: ||AUCH3A
B: auch
A: I think it’s great that it wasn’t just hearing people; deaf people did it, too.
B: Really interesting.
B: SEHEN-AUF2*
B: [LM:ah]
A: ||AUSGERECHNET2*
A: ausgerechnet
B: INTERESSE1A*
B: inte{ressant}
A: ||TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A
A: ||DENKEN1B
A: dachte
A: hörend
A: ||HÖREND1A
A: ||ALLE1A
A: ||AUCH1C
A: auch
A: ||TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A
A: ||PERSON1
A: ||AUSGERECHNET2*
A: ausgerechnet
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||SCHLECHT-NICHT1
A: nicht schlecht
A: ||TOLL1A
A: toll
A: I also know someone who wasn’t kicked out, but fled all by himself. How/
A: ||AUCH1A
A: ||ICH1
A: ||$NUM-EINER1A:1d
A: ein
A: ||KENNEN1A
A: ||PERSON1
A: ||$INDEX1
A: [MG]
A: ||FLUCHT1A
A: flucht
A: ||$INDEX1
A: aber
A: ||RAUSSCHMEISSEN1*
A: $INDEX1
A: ||FLUCHT1A
A: ||EIGEN1C*
A: eigene
A: ||FAUST2
A: faust
A: $INDEX4
A: WIE-FRAGE1
A: wie
A: ||$INDEX1
B: Maybe kicked out is the wrong word.
B: BEDEUTUNG1
B: bedeutet
B: RAUSSCHMEISSEN1*
B: raus
B: WIE3B
B: BEDEUTUNG1
B: bedeutet
B: RAUS3
B: raus
A: Of course, they wanted that person gone for political reasons.
B: WIE3B
A: $GEST-OFF^
B: WORT3
B: wort
A: ||POLITIK1
A: politik
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
B: They were kicked out.
B: RAUS1*
B: raus
A: ||POLITIK1*
A: pol{itik}
A: ||SEIN-IHR1
A: But how they told me about their experiences, oh my gosh!
A: ||ABER1
A: aber
A: ||PERSON1
A: ||$INDEX1
A: erzählt
A: ||ERZÄHLEN3A*
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||SEHR6
A: [MG]
A: ||LEBEN1C*
A: leben
A: ||$INDEX1
A: [MG]
A: I got goose bumps when they told me they organized their own escape.
A: ||ICH1
A: ||GÄNSEHAUT1
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||WIRKLICH2*
A: ||EIGEN1B
A: eigen
A: ENGAGIEREN-SICH1
A: ||FLUCHT1A
A: flucht
A: ||SELBST2
A: selbst
A: ENGAGIEREN-SICH1
A: They weren’t kicked out or anything. They initiated it themselves, really admirable.
A: ||$INDEX1
A: RAUSSCHMEISSEN1*
A: GLEICH1A
A: ||ICH1
A: FÜHREN1A
A: führ
A: ||$INDEX1
A: OHNE2*
A: ohne
A: ||FÜHREN1A*
A: führ
A: ENGAGIEREN-SICH1
A: [MG]
A: ||SEHR6
A: [MG]
A: They wanted to travel from the GDR to Yugoslavia, which was a Soviet region back then.
A: ||KENNEN1A
A: [MG]
A: ||$INDEX1
A: DDR4
A: d-d-r
A: DORT1
A: ||FRÜHER1
A: früh
A: ||JUGOSLAWIEN1
A: jugoslawien
A: kommun{ismus}
A: ||KOMMUNISMUS1
A: ||BEIDE1
A: They went there with the national swimming team.
A: ||$INDEX1
A: schwimmver{ein}
A: SCHWIMMEN1*
A: VEREIN2A*
A: ||$INDEX1
A: $ORAL^
A: selbst
A: national
A: ||NATIONAL2
A: ||$INDEX1
A: Everyone got on the train and was supposed to go to Zagreb in Yugoslavia to swim.
A: ||ZUG2A*
A: zug
A: ||EINSTEIGEN1*
A: [MG]
A: zug
A: ||BUS1A^
A: ||ZUG1A*
A: DORT1
A: SCHWIMMEN1
A: schwimm
A: ||$INDEX1
A: $ALPHA1:Z-E-R-B-R-A
A: z-e-r-b-r-a
A: ||$ALPHA1:Z
A: zerbra
A: ||JUGOSLAWIEN1
A: ju{goslawien}
A: It’s a small place; the Danube goes right through it.
A: ||KLEIN12
A: [MG]
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||ZUG2B
A: zug
A: ||VORBEIGEHEN-AN-ETWAS1*
A: vorbei
A: $ALPHA1:D-O-N-A-U
A: donau
A: You know? There’s the Austrian border, with Hungary on the other side.
A: KENNEN1B
A: ||LANDSCHAFT1^
B: Yes, the Danube is there.
B: $GEST-NM-KOPFNICKEN1^
A: öster{reich}
A: ÖSTERREICH1
A: ||GRENZE1C*
A: NEBEN1A*
B: FLUSS1*
B: fluss
A: ||UNGARN-$KANDIDAT-MST12^
A: ungarn
A: Exactly, the Danube is there.
A: $GEST-NM-KOPFNICKEN1^
A: FLUSS1
A: fluss
A: They went past there at night, and the three of them talked it out.
A: ungarn
A: ||UNGARN-$KANDIDAT-MST12^
A: ||$INDEX1*
A: ||DURCH1B*
A: ||NACHT2
A: nacht
A: ||$PROD*
A: ||$NUM-EINER1A:3d
A: drei
A: VERBUNDEN-SEIN1
A: [MG]
A: ||WIR1A
A: BASTELN1A^
A: It was night and police guarded the train.
A: ||ZUG1A
A: zug
A: WEG2A*
A: [MG]
A: ||ALLES1A*
A: NACHT2
A: nacht
A: ||MIT1A
A: mit
A: polizei
A: ||POLIZEI1B
A: ||STEHEN1*
A: They opened the window and saw the Danube underneath them.
A: ||GEHEN2B*
A: ||STEHEN1*
A: [MG]
A: $PROD*
A: ||GEHEN2B*
A: [MG]
A: wasser
A: WASSER5
A: ||FLUSS1*
A: They knew that Hungary was here, Austria there, and then Germany next to it.
A: ||OB4*
A: ob
A: weiß
A: ||WISSEN2B*
A: ||KREIS2*
A: ungarn
A: ||$ALPHA1:U
A: ||GEHÖREN1^*
A: ||DORT1*
A: ÖSTERREICH1*
A: österreich
A: ||DORT1*
A: DEUTSCH1*
A: deutsch{land}
A: $INDEX1
A: So they gathered their courage and jumped off the train, into the Danube.
A: ||MUT4
A: [MG]
A: ||GEHEN2B*
A: ||SPRINGEN2
A: ||$PROD*
A: [MG]
A: The two friends and that person jumped in together.
A: ||$NUM-EINER1A:2d
A: zwei
A: FREUND7*
A: freund
A: ||$PROD*
A: [MG]
A: One should bear in mind that the Danube has quite a strong current.
A: ||$INDEX1
A: SCHWIMMEN1*
A: schwi{mmen}
A: strömung
A: ||STROM1*
A: ||STRÖMUNG1*
A: They couldn’t go to Hungary; they had to fight against the current to go to Austria/
A: DORT1*
A: da
A: UNGARN-$KANDIDAT-MST12^*
A: un{garn}
A: SCHWIMMEN1*
A: schwi{mmen}
A: KAMPF1B
A: kämpfen kämpfen
A: $PROD*
A: [MG]
B: Wait, one question: They were on the swimming team, so athletes?
B: MOMENT2
B: moment
A: ||ÖSTERREICH1*
B: ZUSAMMENHANG3
B: FRAGE1
B: frage
B: VEREIN2A
B: verein
B: SELBST2
B: selbst
A: Yes, they swam in the deaf national team/
B: KAMPF1A
B: kampf
A: $GEST-NM-KOPFNICKEN1^
B: SCHWIMMEN1
B: schwimm
A: KAMPF1B
B: HART1B*
B: KÖRPER1*
A: national
A: ||NATIONAL3
A: ||NATIONAL2*
A: ||$ALPHA1:D-D
A: d-d
A: ||TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A
A: [MG]
A: It used to be the national team in the Eastern bloc.
A: WISSEN2B*
A: ostblock
A: OSTEN1A
A: $ALPHA1:B
A: VEREIN2A*
A: $GEST-OFF^
A: VEREIN2A*
A: national
A: ||NATIONAL2*
A: SPIEL1A*
A: They weren’t allowed to travel to the west.
A: deutsch{land}
A: ||DEUTSCH1
A: ||KOMMEN1*
A: ||NICHT3A
A: ||NUR2B
A: nur
A: halb
A: ||HALB1A*
A: ||BEREICH1A*
A: One was bound to the club.
A: ||TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A
A: [MG]
A: SO1A
A: so
A: warm
A: VERBAND1B^
A: ZUSAMMEN1A*
A: They managed to swim through the Danube and finally arrived.
A: $GEST-NM-KOPFNICKEN1^
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||SCHAFFEN1C
A: ||DURCH2B
A: strömung
A: ||STROM1*
A: ||STRÖMUNG1*
A: KRAULEN1
A: [MG]
A: ||DURCH1A*
A: durch
A: ||EINTRETEN1A^
A: [MG]
A: But they didn’t know whether they were on Hungarian or Austrian ground.
A: ICH1
A: OB4
A: ob
A: UNGARN1A
A: un{garn}
A: ODER1*
A: oder
A: ÖSTERREICH1
A: öster{reich}
A: ZWISCHEN-ZWEI-MÖGLICHKEITEN-SCHWANKEN1*
A: That person walked for a while and when they saw an eagle, they knew they had done it.
A: ||GEHEN1A*
A: [MG]
A: ||GEHEN2A
A: [MG]
A: $PROD*
A: FLÜGEL4^
A: öster{reich}
A: ÖSTERREICH1*
A: ||$INDEX1
A: $PROD*
A: The two other deaf people had disappeared.
A: zwei
A: ||$NUM-EINER1A:2d
A: ||TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A
A: WEG-VERSCHWINDEN1
A: [MG]
A: $GEST-OFF^
A: The person who told the story didn’t know whether they survived.
A: ÜBERLEBEN1
A: über{leben}
A: [MG]
A: $GEST-OFF^
A: $GEST^
A: But they fought on until it became light out.
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||DURCH1A*
A: [MG]
A: MORGEN-FRÜH1*
A: HELL2
A: hell
A: They were freezing. It was cold and wet.
A: ||GEHEN2A
A: kalt
A: KALT1*
A: KÖRPER1
A: KALT1*
A: kalt
A: NASS1B
A: na{ss}
A: They had left their passport and everything else on the train.
A: ||PASS1
A: ausweis
A: GELD1A*
A: geld
A: LASSEN2A*
A: [MG]
A: The police had grabbed it from the train.
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||POLIZEI1B
A: poli{zei}
A: ||$INDEX1
A: zug
A: ||ZUG1D*
A: $PROD*
A: ||FANGEN1*
A: They went to the embassy and explained the situation.
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||BESUCHEN1B
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||DORTHIN-GEHEN1
A: ||STEMPEL1^
A: botschaft
A: ||$INDEX1
A: AUSTAUSCHEN1*
A: The embassy told them that they had to go to Germany, since Austria wasn’t the right place.
A: $GEST-NM-KOPFNICKEN1^
A: $GEST-NM-KOPFSCHÜTTELN1^
A: ||GLAUBEN2B
A: ||HIER1
A: ÖSTERREICH1
A: öster{reich}
A: ||NICHT3B*
A: ||DORT1
A: ||DEUTSCH1*
A: deutsch
A: First, they travelled to Munich and then Dortmund, that’s how that all developed.
A: ||DORTHIN-GEHEN2
A: [MG]
A: MÜNCHEN1A*
A: münchen
A: ||$PROD*
A: dortmund
A: ||DORTMUND1
A: ||HIER-JETZT1^
A: ||$GEST-OFF^*
A: ||LOS-START1*
A: ||ICH1
A: $GEST-OFF^
A: weit{er}
A: ||LOS-START1*
A: ||WEITER1A
A: ENTWICKELN1B
A: ||IRGENDWANN1
A: Now, he leads a good life here.
A: ||HIER1
A: [MG]
A: ||GUT1*
A: gut
A: leben
A: LEBEN1C*
A: $GEST-OFF^
A: He lives in #Name1 now.
A: ||JETZT1
A: jetzt
A: ||UMZIEHEN1*
A: um
A: #name1
A: ||HIER1*
A: Before, he moved from one place to another.
A: ||UMZIEHEN1*
A: That person is a very good swimmer.
A: ||AUF-PERSON1
A: [MG]
A: SCHWIMMEN1
A: schwimmer
A: ||AUCH1A
A: auch
A: ||STARK1B*
A: stark
A: ||$GEST^
A: [MG]
A: I got goose bumps as they talked about the two friends that just disappeared.
A: ERZÄHLEN1
A: erzähl
A: ||LEBEN1C*
A: leb
A: ||GÄNSEHAUT1
A: ||SEIN-IHR1
A: [MG]
A: ||FREUND3
A: freund
A: ||$NUM-EINER1A:2d
A: zwei
A: WEG-VERSCHWINDEN1
A: [MG]
A: To this day, they don’t know whether the friends survived, as they never reached out to them.
A: ||BIS-JETZT1
A: bis
A: KONTAKT2A
A: kon{takt}
A: ||MELDUNG1
A: m{elden}
A: ||OB4*
A: ob
A: LEBEN1C
A: leb
A: ||TOD3
A: tot
A: ||WISSEN2B
A: weiß
A: NICHTS1B
A: nichts
A: They were probably the only one to survive.
A: ||ICH1
A: ||$NUM-EINER1A:1
A: leben
A: LEBEN1C
A: ||$GEST-OFF^*
A: They said there are people who lived under the pressure of communism and were happy with it.
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||KOMMUNISMUS1
A: kommu{nismus}
A: ||LEBEN1C*
A: ||SAGEN1
A: DRUCK-AUF-PERSON1
A: ||ZUFRIEDEN4*
A: zufried{en}
A: To them, coming to the west would’ve meant leading a worse life. That’s interesting.
A: ||KOMMEN1*
A: SCHLECHT1*
A: [MG]
A: ||$INDEX1
A: ||GEFÜHL2A*
A: fühl
A: LEBEN1C*
A: le{ben}
A: MASS2C^*
A: ||INTERESSE1A
A: [MG]
A: ||$GEST-OFF^*
A: $GEST-NM-KOPFNICKEN1^
A: [MG]