B: I want to talk about family.
B: ICH1
B: ÜBER1
B: über
B: FAMILIE3*
B: familie
B: About my family.
B: über
B: ÜBER1
B: ICH1
B: familie
B: FAMILIE3*
B: MEIN1*
B: There are many deaf people in my family.
B: HAUPTSÄCHLICH1
B: [MG]
B: ALLE3*
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: $GEST^
B: I grew up deaf. Well, I'm sorry but I never spoke a word.
B: AUFWACHSEN1A
B: aufwachsen
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: SPRECHEN3
B: [MG]
B: NIEMALS2A
B: niemals
B: ICH1
B: ENTSCHULDIGUNG1*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: Even though my father's parents were hearing, I never spoke a word with them.
B: OBWOHL2*
B: obwohl
B: OMA2
B: oma
B: OPA1A
B: opa
B: papa
B: PAPA4
B: GEHÖREN1*
B: HÖREND1A*
B: hörend
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: ICH1
B: SPRECHEN3
B: sprechen
B: NICHT3A*
B: nicht
B: I simply didn't like it. I knew that they wouldn't understand me anyway.
B: MÖGEN-NICHT1*
B: $GEST^
B: GRUND4B
B: grund
B: WISSEN2A
B: weiß
B: $INDEX1*
B: verstehen
B: VERSTEHEN1
B: AUF-PERSON1*
B: NICHT3A*
B: nicht
B: $GEST^
B: My mother always interpreted for me.
B: mama
B: MAMA11*
B: $INDEX1*
B: REGELMÄSSIG2*
B: [MG]
B: ÜBERSETZEN3*
B: übersetzen
B: FÜR1*
B: für
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
B: I am deeply sorry. After all, they are my grandparents. Oh well.
B: [MG]
B: ENTSCHULDIGUNG1*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: OB4*
B: EIGEN1D
B: eigen
B: OMA2
B: oma
B: opa
B: OPA1A
B: $INDEX2
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: That's why I'm all for Deaf Power.
B: DARUM1
B: darum
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A
B: TOLLER-HECHT1^*
B: [MG]
B: I just feel at ease signing. That way, I am able to understand everything.
B: WOHL1
B: wohl
B: GEBÄRDEN1G*
B: [MG]
B: verstehen
B: ICH1*
B: VERSTEHEN1*
B: ALLES1B
B: alles
B: Whenever I have to read lips off a hearing person who has a bad viseme, I'm already tired of them.
B: NEIN2B*
B: $INDEX1*
B: HÖREND1A*
B: hörend
B: $GEST-NM-SPRECHEN1^
B: [MG]
B: ICH1
B: SCHON1A
B: schon
B: HASSEN1*
B: [MG]
B: AUF-PERSON1*
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: [MG]
B: I grew up deaf and I'm used to it. The end.
B: ICH2
B: AUFWACHSEN1A
B: GEWOHNHEIT1
B: gewohnt
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: NEIN3B^*
B: What do the hearing people want from me?
B: HÖREND1A
B: hörend
B: WOLLEN2*
B: was will
B: I am sorry to say this. But the reason, that I do, is that I don't understand hearing people or hearing people don't understand me.
B: ENTSCHULDIGUNG1*
B: $GEST^
B: weil
B: ICH1
B: WEIL1*
B: GRUND4B
B: grund
B: VERSTEHEN1
B: verstehen
B: NICHT3A*
B: nicht
B: ODER1*
B: oder
B: AUF-PERSON1*
B: auf
B: VERSTEHEN1
B: verstehen
B: NICHT3A*
B: nicht
B: $GEST^
B: Oh yes, then I get really angry. And when I try to talk, I struggle and I can get only so much across.
B: $GEST^
B: warum
B: SAUER2*
B: sauer
B: AUCH3A*
B: auch
B: wenn
B: WENN1
B: ICH1
B: SPRECHEN3
B: [MG]
B: ACHTUNG1A^*
B: TROTZDEM2A
B: trotzdem
B: KURZ3A
B: kurz
B: $GEST^
B: There is always so much in my head that I want to say but I just can't do it, because I start to stutter and I just can't get anything across.
B: ICH1
B: WÜNSCHEN1A*
B: wünsch
B: HIRN1A^*
B: [MG]
B: VIEL1A
B: viel
B: SAGEN1*
B: sagen
B: $ORAL^
B: aber
B: AUSSICHTSLOS3A^
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX-ORAL1
B: [MG]
B: KURZ4
B: [MG]
B: $GEST^
B: It is also very exhausting for the hearing people to understand me.
B: FÜR1*
B: für
B: HÖREND1A*
B: hörend
B: AUCH3A*
B: auch
B: MÜHE2
B: VERSTEHEN1*
B: verstehen
B: WAHRNEHMEN-AUGE1A^*
B: [MG]
B: Maybe they get earaches, I don't know.
B: v{ielleicht} ohrschmerzen
B: OHR1
B: SCHMERZ3
B: weiß nicht
B: WISSEN2B*
B: NICHT1
B: I get pain in my eyes from having to lip read, therefore I don't want to do it.
B: FÜR1*
B: für
B: AUCH3A*
B: auch
B: AUGE1*
B: auge
B: SCHMERZ3
B: schmerzen
B: ORAL1
B: LASSEN1^
B: [MG]
B: That's why it was so important to me that my husband's parents - back when we first became a couple- were deaf as well.
B: KOMMA1^
B: darum
B: EHEMANN1
B: mann
B: VORHER2
B: SCHATZ1
B: [MG]
B: MUSS1A*
B: muss
B: DEIN1*
B: ELTERN7
B: eltern
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: ALLE1B
B: Thereby I felt really comfortable and then we became an item.
B: ICH1
B: WOHL1
B: wohl
B: ZUSAMMEN-PERSON1
B: If he had a hearing family, then their behavior would seem odd to me, therefore I didn't want to have that.
B: HÖREND1A*
B: hörend
B: ALLE1B
B: BISSCHEN2A*
B: bisschen
B: AUCH3A*
B: auch
B: VERHALTEN2
B: MERKWÜRDIG3
B: [MG]
B: ICH1
B: NEIN1B
B: I knew, if I were to visit them, I would have to communicate with them somehow and I didn't want that.
B: MÖGEN-NICHT1*
B: WISSEN2B
B: weiß
B: GRUND4B*
B: grund
B: BESUCHEN1B*
B: KOMMUNIKATION1A*
B: [MG]
B: KEINE-LUST1
B: ICH1*
B: That is out of the question for me.
B: NEIN2B*
B: I simply need that, because my brother, my mother and my dad are also deaf.
B: BRAUCHEN1*
B: brauchen
B: ICH2
B: warum
B: BRUDER1A
B: bruder
B: MAMA11*
B: mama
B: PAPA4
B: papa
B: ALLE1B
B: alle
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: My aunt, my uncle and my cousins are all deaf as well.
B: TANTE5
B: tante
B: ONKEL1A
B: onkel
B: cousin
B: COUSIN1
B: ICH1
B: DA1^*
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: When there were family celebrations, I was able to understand everything well.
B: DA1*
B: da da da
B: FEIERN1*
B: geburtstagsfeier
B: immer
B: IMMER4A*
B: ICH1
B: VERSTEHEN1^*
B: [MG]
B: ALLES1B
B: alle
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: I love that.
B: schön
B: SCHÖN1A
B: $GEST^
B: I once visited my friend on her birthday and I didn't feel comfortable in her family at all.
B: ICH1
B: freundin
B: FREUNDIN2*
B: BESUCHEN1A*
B: GEBURTSTAG12*
B: geburtstag
B: BESUCHEN1B*
B: GEHÖREN1*
B: familie
B: FAMILIE3*
B: ICH1
B: $GEST-NM^
B: SCHON1A*
B: schon
B: NICHT3A
B: nicht
B: WOHL1
B: wohl
B: I asked her if her family just spoke all the time.
B: SPRECHEN2*
B: SO1
B: so
B: My friend said that it simply were that way in her family.
B: FREUNDIN2*
B: [MG]
B: SAGEN1
B: [MG]
B: SO1
B: so
B: JA2*
B: I couldn't do that in the long run.
B: DAUERN1*
B: auf dauer
B: ICH1
B: KANN1*
B: I couldn't do it.
B: ICH1
B: KANN1*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: I don't feel comfortable with that.
B: NICHT3A*
B: nicht
B: WOHL1
B: wohl
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: I just grew up differently.
B: so
B: SO1
B: ICH1
B: AUFWACHSEN1A
B: aufwachsen
B: That's why it was a must for me/ There is only one exception and that is at work.
B: DARUM1*
B: darum
B: DANN1A*
B: MUSS1A*
B: muss
B: NUR2A*
B: nur
B: $NUM-EINER1A:1
B: ein
B: $GEST^
B: [MG]
B: ARBEITEN2
B: arbeiten
B: There, I have to be in the hearing world whether I like it or not.
B: SICH-MIT-ETWAS-ABFINDEN1B*
B: [MG]
B: HÖREND1A*
B: hörend
B: WELT1
B: welt
B: EINTRETEN1A*
B: [MG]
B: I have to take it for eight hours and then I can go home quickly.
B: SICH-MIT-ETWAS-ABFINDEN1B
B: [MG]
B: STUNDE2B*
B: acht stunden
B: $GEST^
B: NACH-HAUSE1*
B: nach hause
B: Then I feel at ease again, because I can sign again.
B: wohl
B: WOHL1
B: GEBÄRDEN1D*
B: I need that.
B: brauchen
B: BRAUCHEN1*
B: ICH1
B: Won‘t do without it.
B: NEIN1B*
B: [MG]
B: Oh well. That is why I can't join the hearing world.
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A
B: HÖREND1A
B: hörend
B: EINTRETEN1A*
B: ICH1
B: KANN1*
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: I simply can't do it. It is just the way I am.
B: PERSON4
B: KANN1*
B: NEIN2B
C: You are a “CODA”, how is that for you when you enter the hearing community? How does the communication work?
B: I feel comfortable in the deaf community because they use sign language there.
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: GEMEINSCHAFT1B*
B: gemeinschaft
B: ICH1
B: IN1*
B: wohl
B: WOHL1
B: ICH1
B: $GEST^
B: GEBÄRDEN1G^*
B: [MG]
B: Back in the day, through school in Essen/ There were just ordinary people in school in Berlin back in the day.
B: FRÜHER1*
B: früher
B: DURCH1A
B: durch
B: SCHULE1A*
B: schule
B: ESSEN-STADT1
B: essen
B: FRÜHER1*
B: früher
B: BERLIN1A
B: mauer
B: schule
B: SCHULE1A
B: BEREICH1A^
B: einfach
B: EINFACH1
B: LEUTE2
B: There were very few kids with whom I could sign during the times of the Berlin Wall.
B: FRÜHER1*
B: früher
B: MAUER3*
B: mauer
B: WENIG2
B: [MG]
B: KIND2*
B: kinder
B: WENIG2*
B: [MG]
B: GEBÄRDEN1D*
B: VIEL1A
B: viel
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: [MG]
B: When I went to Essen, I was surprised by the great number of deaf people there.
B: NACH-ORT1*
B: nach
B: ESSEN-STADT1
B: essen
B: SEHR7^*
B: [MG]
B: VIEL1A
B: viel
B: LEUTE2*
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: DA1*
B: da da da da
B: ES-GIBT3
B: es gibt
B: I was feeling really comfortable there, because I could sign with them.
B: wohl
B: WOHL1
B: GEBÄRDEN1G*
B: It was great, because we partied a lot. It was awesome.
B: SCHÖN3*
B: schön
B: FEIERN1
B: [MG]
B: schön
B: SCHÖN3*
B: GEBÄRDEN1G*
B: GEBÄRDEN1D*
B: I also liked the fact, that people were from all over the country, from northern Germany as well as from the south.
B: verschieden
B: VERSCHIEDEN2B*
B: VERSCHIEDEN1*
B: NORD1A
B: norden
B: BIS1*
B: bis
B: SÜDEN1A*
B: süden
B: ALLE1A*
B: SCHÖN3*
B: [MG]
B: When I moved back to Berlin, I had changed and accepted it.
B: ZURÜCK1A*
B: zurück
B: BERLIN1A*
B: berlin
B: $GEST^
B: UM1A
B: [MG]
B: OKAY1*
B: okay
B: AKZEPTIEREN1
B: akzeptieren
B: $GEST^
B: It is really important to me that my husband and my family are deaf.
B: WICHTIG1
B: wichtig
B: EHEMANN1
B: mann
B: FAMILIE3
B: familie
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: I feel comfortable then.
B: wohl
B: WOHL1
B: NEIN3B^*
B: I don't get along with hearing people, I just don't.
B: HÖREND1A*
B: hörende
B: ICH1
B: NEIN2B*
C: What was your experience like when you met deaf people and signed with them? Is the family of that person also deaf or are they hearing? Whom do you meet typically?
B: I like when the family of the person is also deaf.
B: ICH1
B: ich
B: ETWAS-LIEBEN1
B: [MG]
B: WAS1A*
B: was
B: PERSON1
B: SELBST1A*
B: selbst
B: AUCH3A*
B: auch
B: FAMILIE3
B: familie
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A
B: Communicating with them in sign language is just quick and easy/
B: $GEST^
B: warum
C: So when you sign with a person and you like the communication, do you notice that right away if their family is also deaf, or are you not aware of that?
B: GEBÄRDEN1E
B: KOMPRIMIEREN1A^*
B: VERSTEHEN1*
B: verstehen
B: Unconsciously?
B: UNBEWUSST1
B: unbewusst
B: Yes, most of the time. That's true.
B: MEISTENS1A
B: meistens
B: STIMMT1B*
B: stimmt
B: MEISTENS1A
B: meistens
B: STIMMT1B*
B: stimmt
B: Whenever I had a good conversation with somebody, it turned out that their family is also deaf.
B: unbewusst
B: UNBEWUSST1
B: TREFFEN2B
B: GEBÄRDEN1E
B: GUT1*
B: [MG]
B: DURCH2B
B: durch
B: FAMILIE3*
B: familie
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: da
B: DA1
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: It has improved with the younger deaf people these days.
B: MEISTENS1A
B: JETZT1*
B: jetzt
B: NEU1A
B: neu
B: JUNG1
B: jung
B: BESSER1*
B: besser besser besser
B: It used to be different.
B: FRÜHER1*
B: früher
B: NEIN1A
B: The people were signing really slow and I was nearly bored to death. Of course, their parents were hearing in most of the cases.
B: GEBÄRDEN1A*
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX1*
B: [MG]
B: ICH1
B: [MG]
B: langweilig
B: LANGEWEILE1*
B: EINSCHLAFEN1*
B: $INDEX1*
B: HÖREND1A
B: hörende
B: ELTERN7
B: eltern
B: KLAR1B^
B: logisch
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: I don't want to offend them, but that is just the way it is.
B: NICHT3A*
B: nicht
B: beleidigung
B: BELEIDIGEN3
B: $GEST^
B: ICH1*
B: SO1*
B: so
B: WAHR2
B: so
B: SO1
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: When I meet deaf people, I sign fast and then I feel comfortable.
B: ICH1
B: TREFFEN2B
B: [MG]
B: GEBÄRDEN1E
B: wohl
B: WOHL1
B: GEBÄRDEN1E*
B: And then I find out that their family is also deaf.
B: SELBST1A*
B: FAMILIE3*
B: familie
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: It did fit there.
B: STIMMT1B*
B: stimmt
B: Or if the brother was deaf, it usually fit there, too.
B: ODER1*
B: oder
B: BRUDER1A
B: bruder
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: STIMMT1B*
B: stimmt
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: I don't know why it is that way.
B: ||WARUM2A
B: warum
B: WISSEN2A
B: weiß
B: They use more facial expressions and one always knows what the other one means and one just has a connection with the other person.
B: AUCH3A*
B: auch
B: MIMIK1
B: mimik
B: MEHR1
B: mehr
B: $INDEX1*
B: WAS-BEDEUTET1*
B: WISSEN2A*
B: weiß
B: VERSTEHEN1*
B: [MG]
B: JA2
B: ja
B: VERSTEHEN1*
B: [MG]
B: $GEST^
B: Deaf people who grew up in a hearing family are different.
B: FAMILIE3*
B: familie
B: HÖREND1A
B: hörend
B: NEIN1A*
B: They learned sign language a little later, just a little bit.
B: BISSCHEN2A*
B: bisschen
B: SPÄT1
B: spät
B: WAHRNEHMUNG1
B: BISSCHEN2A*
B: bisschen
B: Therefore I have to sign everything very slowly and clearly.
B: ODER1*
B: oder
B: muss
B: MUSS1A*
B: ICH1
B: MEHR1*
B: mehr
B: SORGFÄLTIG1
B: [MG]
B: BESCHEID1A
B: BISSCHEN2A*
B: bisschen
B: I lack the get up and go in that matter.
B: ICH1
B: KEINE-LUST1
B: [MG]
B: $GEST^
B: When one can say everything in a compact way and is able to understand everything, then I feel comfortable.
B: SCHNELL3A*
B: schnell
B: KOMPRIMIEREN1A^*
B: [MG]
B: VERSTEHEN1*
B: [MG]
B: WISSEN2A*
B: weiß
B: JA2
B: [MG]
B: FERTIG4
B: [MG]
B: WOHL1
B: wohl
B: Then communication always simply works.
B: KOMMUNIKATION1A
B: kommunikation
B: SCHIEF1
B: schief
B: KEIN8
B: [MG]
C: It is something like telepathy.
B: Yes, it's kind of like telepathy.
B: WIE4A*
B: wie
B: GEDANKENLESEN1
B: [MG]
A: That's true.
A: $ORAL^
A: stimmt
C: Do you have a role model in your closer or wider environment, someone that you look up to? It doesn't matter whether they are hearing or deaf.
B: My brother was my role model during my childhood, even though he used LBG [signed German].
B: FRÜHER1
B: früher
B: AUFWACHSEN1A
B: [MG]
B: ICH1
B: VORBILD1*
B: vorbild
B: MEIN1
B: bruder
B: BRUDER1A
B: ICH1
B: obwohl
B: OBWOHL2*
B: $INDEX1*
B: LBG2*
B: l-b-g
B: LBG1
B: [MG]
B: He was my role model, because he always knew everything about anything.
B: ABER1*
B: aber
B: VORBILD1*
B: vorbild
B: $INDEX1*
B: GRUND4B*
B: grund
B: $INDEX1*
B: WISSEN2B
B: weiß
B: ALLES1B
B: alles
B: It was pretty impressive for me and I was surprised that he knew so much.
B: [MG]
B: SEHR7^
B: ICH2
B: KLEIN3
B: klein
B: SEHR7^*
B: [MG]
B: WISSEN2A
B: weiß
B: ALLES1B*
B: alles
B: He went to the Realschule [type of secondary school in Germany], and back in the days, that was something special.
B: DURCH2A
B: durch
B: SCHULE1A
B: schule
B: realschule
B: REALSCHULE3*
B: FRÜHER1
B: SEHR7^*
B: [MG]
B: $GEST^
B: [MG]
B: I really loved it.
B: ICH1
B: [MG]
B: SEHEN1
B: [MG]
B: GUT1*
B: [MG]
B: Whenever I asked him something, he always had an answer.
B: WISSEN2B*
B: ICH1
B: FRAGE1
B: frage
B: ANTWORT1*
B: antwort antwort
B: I liked that.
B: GUT1*
B: [MG]
B: Later, when we grew up, that changed.
B: FORTSCHRITT2^
B: und
B: WACHSEN2C^
B: danach
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: LASSEN1^
B: There were other people I could ask.
B: ES-GIBT3
B: gibt
B: $INDEX-MONITOR1*
B: ES-GIBT3
B: gibt
B: There are always people like that somewhere.
B: IRGENDWO1^
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: I don't have a role model anymore.
B: VORBILD1
B: vorbild
B: NICHT1
B: A role model who is part of the Deaf community and who is a great person himself, that would be Thomas Geißler, the teacher, for me.
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: gehörlos
B: GEMEINSCHAFT1B
B: gemeinschaft
B: VORBILD1
B: vorbild
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: GUT1*
B: $GEST^
B: thomas geißler
B: $NAME-THOMAS-GEISSLER1*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: LEHRER2
B: lehrer
B: UNTERRICHTEN1*
B: He always knows an answer right away, I think that is impressive.
B: $LIST1:1of1d
B: SCHNELL3A
B: schnell
B: ANTWORT1*||$NUM-EINER1A:1d
B: antwort
B: ICH1*||AUFZÄHLEN1C
B: $INDEX1*
B: [MG]
B: SEHR7^*
B: [MG]
B: If I were him, I would loose my train of thought and have to take some time to think about the answer.
B: VORSTELLUNG1A*
B: vorstellen
B: ICH1
B: SELBST1A*
B: selbst
B: FADEN-VERLIEREN1^*
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-ÜBERLEGEN1^*
B: DENKEN1B
B: ÜBERLEGEN4*
B: überlegen
B: But he always answers quickly, which I admire.
B: $INDEX1*
B: SCHNELL3A
B: schnell
B: ANTWORT1*||AUFZÄHLEN1C
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX1*
B: [MG]
B: SEHR7^*
B: [MG]
B: His internal work is also terrific.
B: mitarbeit
B: MIT1A
B: ARBEITEN2*
B: HINEINSTECKEN3^
B: [MG]
B: TOLL1A
B: toll
B: He is the second chairman, do you know Thomas Geißler?
B: $NUM-ORD1:2d
B: zweite
B: VORSTAND2*
B: vorstand
B: KENNEN1A
B: kennst
A: No.
B: DU1*
B: du
B: thomas geißler
B: $NAME-THOMAS-GEISSLER1
A: $ORAL^
A: nein
A: $GEST-NM-KOPFSCHÜTTELN1^
A: [MG]
B: DU1*
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: Hm, he is terrific and admirable.
B: $INDEX1*
B: TOLL1A
B: toll
B: SEHEN-AUF1*
B: [MG]
B: I take my hat off to him, he truly is terrific.
B: [MG]
B: BRAVO2*
B: HUT-AB1
B: BRAVO2*
B: [MG]
B: APPLAUS1
C: Would you think of your parents as role models?
C: Ok, that's normal.
B: No, they are simply darling people.
B: LIEB1A
B: lieb
B: My parents are darling.
B: MEIN1
B: ELTERN7
B: eltern
C: Of course, I see them 24 hours a day, therefore they are not my role models. That's right.
B: MEIN1
B: lieb
B: LIEB1A
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: My understanding of a role model is a person who has something, something that really knocks my socks off.
B: VORBILD1
B: vorbild
B: SAGEN1^*
B: bedeuten
B: MUSS1A
B: muss
B: BESONDERS1A
B: was besonders
B: SELBST1A
B: selbst
B: BAFF-SEIN1
B: [MG]
B: That's it.
B: DIESE2*
B: [MG]
C: Do you feel like you want to be like your role model or that you at least want to emulate that person? It is often very common.
B: That I am that impressed by my role model that it will influence my behavior? No, it is not like that.
B: SPANNUNG3
B: [MG]
B: AUSWIRKUNG1^*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
C: What was your favorite experience in the Deaf community?
B: $ORAL^
B: My favorite experience?
B: schönste erlebnis
B: It was at a big event. I was still pretty young.
B: MASSE-PERSON-AKTIV2^*
B: [MG]
B: FEIERN1*
B: [MG]
B: MASSE-PERSON-AKTIV2^*
B: [MG]
B: JUNG1
B: jung
B: I was maybe 14 years old and I was at a sports event in Kassel/
B: ICH1
B: SELBST1A
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: $NUM-TEEN1:4
B: vierzehn
B: ALT5A
B: alt
B: WOHIN1^
B: WO1A
B: wo
B: IN1*
B: in
B: $ALPHA1:K
B: kassel
B: sportfest
B: SPORT1
B: FEST-FEIER1A*
B: Back then in Kassel, I think it was maybe in 1980 or something like that?
B: $ALPHA1:K
B: kassel
B: FRÜHER1
B: [MG]
B: neunhundertachtzig
B: $NUM-HUNDERTER1:9
B: $NUM-ZEHNER2A:8d
C: It was 1987.
B: $NUM-EINER1B:8d
B: [MG]
B: WIE-VIEL5
B: wie viel
B: I am not great with numbers.
B: ICH1
B: ZAHL2A
B: zahl
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: You're right, it was in 1987, so already some time ago.
B: neunzehnhundertsiebenundachtzig
B: $NUM-TEEN3:9
B: $NUM-EINER1D:7d
B: $NUM-ZEHNER2A:8d*
B: FRÜHER1
B: So many people came to Kassel, I loved it.
B: $ALPHA1:K
B: kassel
B: MASSE-PERSON-AKTIV2^*
B: [MG]
B: SEHR7^*
B: [MG]
B: SCHÖN1A
B: schön
B: I could do everything I wanted because I wasn't accompanied by my parents. I was free to do anything.
B: DARF1*
B: darf
B: ICH1
B: FREI1
B: frei
B: eltern
B: ELTERN7
B: FERN1^*
B: They used to scold me a lot. It can also have disadvantages to have deaf parents.
B: FRÜHER1
B: früher
B: SCHIMPFEN3A
B: [MG]
B: GRUND4A
B: grund
B: ELTERN7
B: eltern
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: BISSCHEN2A
B: auch bisschen
B: NACHTEIL1*
B: nachteil
B: For example, whenever I went to a party, my parents always knew about it.
B: WAS1B*
B: was
B: ICH1
B: FEIERN1
B: IMMER4A*
B: immer
B: ELTERN7
B: eltern
B: ERFAHREN1A
B: erfahren
B: $INDEX1*
B: After the party, people talked to my parents and told them that their daughter did this and that at the party.
B: FEIERN1*
B: BESCHEID1A*
B: [MG]
B: SEIN-IHR1
B: TOCHTER1*
B: tochter
B: $INDEX1*
B: was macht
B: WAS1A*
B: WAS-MACHEN1*
B: AUFZÄHLEN1A
B: My parents always asked what I was thinking.
B: ELTERN7
B: eltern
B: $GEST-AUFMERKSAMKEIT1^*
B: [MG]
B: WAS1A*
B: It was annoying when I had to admit to everything.
B: ICH1
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: [MG]
B: STIMMT1B*
B: stimmt
B: $GEST^
B: [MG]
B: ANSTRENGEND1
B: [MG]
B: AUF-PERSON1*
B: $GEST^
B: Kassel is far away from home and no member of my family was there with me.
B: kassel
B: $ALPHA1:K
B: $INDEX1*
B: WEIT1*
B: weit
B: UND2A
B: und
B: MEIN1*
B: FAMILIE3*
B: VERWANDT1
B: verwandtschaft
B: NIRGENDWO1*
B: [MG]
B: I felt liberated, and I could do whatever I wanted.
B: ICH1
B: FREI1*
B: frei
B: RICHTIG1A
B: richtig
B: FREI1*
B: frei
B: WAS1A*
B: was
B: ICH2
B: MACHEN1*
B: machen
B: DARF1*
B: darf
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: My parents didn't know any of that.
B: ELTERN7
B: eltern
B: KEINE-AHNUNG1
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-ABWINKEN1^*
B: Now I am the one who worries, because both of my kids are deaf as well.
B: JETZT1*
B: jetzt
B: ICH1
B: GEDANKEN1
B: NÄCHSTE1*
B: MEIN1
B: KIND2*
B: kinder
B: $NUM-EINER1A:2*
B: zwei
B: AUCH3A*
B: auch
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: SEHEN-WEG-HIN1*
B: They will probably do the same things that I did back then.
B: BESTIMMT2
B: bestimmt
B: AUCH3A*
B: auch
B: WIE4A*
B: wie
B: ICH1
B: ich
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: Oh well, that is something people will continue to do.
B: ABLAUF1^*
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX1
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: LASSEN1
B: That's no reason for me to get nosy or dictate them what to do.
B: darum
B: DARUM1
B: ICH1
B: NEUGIERIG1
B: [MG]
B: BESCHEID1A*
B: [MG]
B: ICH1*
B: brauche nicht
B: BRAUCHEN1*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: I didn't like it either when someone tried to do that with me. I don't want that.
B: WARUM2A*
B: warum
B: BESCHEID1A*
B: eltern
B: AUCH3A*
B: auch
B: ICH1
B: BISSCHEN2A
B: bisschen
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: NICHT3B*
C: That means, that the most important thing for you is communication/
B: $GEST-NM-KOPFNICKEN1^
B: Yes.
C: You like it, when people at big events or in families sign. You don't like your work place. Is it true then, that you cherish communication via sign language the most?
B: Yes, I need that. I need it, because communication is important to me.
B: BRAUCHEN1*
B: brauchen
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: BRAUCHEN1*
B: brauchen
C: Have you ever been a part of the hearing world?
B: KOMMUNIKATION1A
B: kommunikation
B: wichtig
B: WICHTIG1
B: ICH1*
B: FÜR1*
B: für
B: No, I almost was but then I changed my mind.
B: $GEST-NM-KOPFSCHÜTTELN1^
B: [MG]
B: GEHEN4*
B: FORT1*
B: [MG]
B: I can't deal with it.
B: ICH1*
B: KANN1*
B: [MG]
B: I'm already pressured enough to be in the hearing world at work.
B: ARBEITEN2
B: arbeiten
B: SCHON1A
B: schon
B: ZWANG1*
B: gezwungen
B: genug
B: GENUG1
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: I don't want it in other areas.
C: And what was it like in your youth?
B: MEHR1*
B: noch mehr
B: MÖGEN4
B: möchte
B: NICHT3A
B: nicht
B: I also had hearing friends. Yes, hearing friends.
B: FREUND3
B: freund
B: HÖREND1A*
B: hörend
B: FREUND3
B: freund
B: GEWESEN1*
B: gewesen
B: HÖREND1A*
B: hörend
B: FREUND3
B: freund
B: JA1A*
B: ja
B: But I did ask them to learn sign language, that's it.
B: ICH1
B: aber
B: FORDERN1
B: [MG]
B: $INDEX1*
B: MUSS1A*
B: muss
B: GEBÄRDEN1E
B: [MG]
B: LERNEN1
B: lernen
B: FERTIG1A
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: But anyway, the hearing culture is strange and I don't understand what they're saying. I did not like that.
B: TROTZDEM2A
B: trotzdem
B: INHALT3
B: GEHÖREN1*
B: KULTUR1A*
B: MERKWÜRDIG3
B: [MG]
B: GEHÖREN1^*
B: [MG]
B: meinung
B: MEINUNG1B
B: GEHÖREN1^*
B: ICH1*
B: [MG]
B: AB1C^*
B: [MG]
B: $GEST^
B: I just have so much more in common with deaf people than with hearing people. It's just always so strange with them.
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: GLEICH8*
B: HÖREND1A*
B: hörend
B: MERKWÜRDIG3
B: [MG]
B: I'm sorry, I can't do it.
B: ENTSCHULDIGUNG1*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
B: ||ICH2
B: ||NEIN1B
C: That is normal. That is biologically conditioned. You still have some time left; just pick a another topic which you want to talk about. We already covered your apprenticeship. Have you been on a trip with a deaf travel group maybe?
B: No, I didn't travel much with deaf travel groups.
B: REISE1B*
B: reise
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: ZUSAMMEN1C
B: ICH1
B: viel
B: VIEL1A*
B: ZUSAMMEN1C
B: $GEST-NM-KOPFSCHÜTTELN1^
B: I went skiing with a group once, on a ski holiday, but other than that, nothing.
B: SKI1
B: ski
B: URLAUB7
B: urlaub
C: Or didn't you play a part in a movie with a group? The Deaf Media?/
B: SKI1
B: ski
B: ZUSAMMEN1C
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: Which movie?
B: FILM1*
B: film
B: WELCHE2*
B: welche
B: FILM1*
B: film
B: My work/
B: ARBEITEN1*
B: arbeiten
C: Working on the movie, or together at work/
B: I worked together with the film crew from early in the morning until late at night and from late at night until early in the morning, that was great.
B: IMMER4A*
B: immer
B: FILM1*
B: film
B: TEAM1A
B: team
B: ZUSAMMEN1A*
B: $GEST^
B: FRÜH2
B: früh
B: BIS1
B: bis
B: ABEND2
B: abend
B: MORGEN-FRÜH1
B: morgen früh
B: ARBEITEN2
B: arbeiten
C: What was great? Can you tell us something about it?
B: schön
B: SCHÖN1A
B: $GEST^
B: Because we always had the means of communication.
B: INHALT3*
B: DURCH2B*
B: durch
B: KOMMUNIKATION1A
B: kommunikation
B: IMMER4A*
B: immer
B: DA1*
B: da
B: I don't feel the differences, because we are signing at home as well.
B: GROSS3A
B: groß
B: UNTERSCHIED1B
B: unterschied
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: ICH1
B: warum
B: ZUHAUSE1B
B: zu hause
B: AUCH3A*
B: auch
B: GEBÄRDEN1E
B: DA1*
B: da
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: I don't see any differences there.
B: ICH2
B: UNTERSCHIED1B
B: unterschied
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: It was nice for me to work with other deaf people.
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: ZUSAMMEN1A*
B: schön
B: SCHÖN1A
B: ICH1
B: JA1A*
B: ja
B: $GEST^
B: I was a little angry in school and during my apprenticeship, yes, because deaf people and hard of hearing people were educated together.
B: SCHULE1A
B: schule
B: BILDUNG1
B: ausbildung
B: ICH1
B: BILDUNG1
B: ausbildung
B: ICH1
B: [MG]
B: BILDUNG1
B: ausbildung
B: BISSCHEN2A*
B: bisschen
B: ÄRGERN-SICH2
B: [MG]
B: GRUND4B
B: grund
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: SCHWERHÖRIG1*
B: schwerhörig
B: ZUSAMMEN1A*
B: zusammen
B: They proceeded that way, because there were very few deaf people, therefore we were all in one class together.
B: WARUM10A
B: warum
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: WENIG2
B: [MG]
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: MUSS1A*
B: muss
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: SCHWERHÖRIG1*
B: schwerhörig
B: ZUSAMMEN1A*
B: zusammen
B: It was alright with the hard of hearing people, we worked it out alright, but the hard of hearing just couldn't sign well enough.
B: $INDEX1*
B: GEBÄRDEN1E*
B: INEINANDERGREIFEN1A*
B: INTEGRATION1
B: OKAY1*
B: okay
B: INTEGRATION1
B: $INDEX1*
B: GRUND4B*
B: grund
B: schwerhörig
B: SCHWERHÖRIG1*
B: ALLE2A
B: VIEL1A
B: viel
B: GEBÄRDEN1E
B: NICHT3A
B: nicht
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: They didn't sign.
B: KEIN8*
B: It was supposed to get better on the job, but sadly, that didn't happen either.
B: BERUF1A
B: beruf
B: BISSCHEN2A*
B: bisschen
B: NIVEAU1
B: $INDEX1*
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: [MG]
B: They used the oral method a lot, because they thought, that we were better off with spoken language rather than with sign language.
B: $GEST^
B: ORAL1
B: MEIN1*
B: GRUND4B*
B: grund
B: ORAL1*
B: BESSER1*
B: besser
B: $GEST^
B: GEBÄRDEN1G*
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: I accepted that, but in return, I - as a deaf person- want to be accepted, the way I am.
B: OKAY1*
B: okay
B: AKZEPTIEREN1*
B: akzeptieren
B: NETT1
B: aber
B: AUCH3A*
B: akzeptieren
B: AKZEPTIEREN1*
B: ICH1*
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: so
B: SO1*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: The teacher was torn because he didn't know whether to talk at a normal pace for the hard of hearing people or to talk really slow for the deaf people.
B: LEHRER2
B: lehrer
B: SELBST1A*
B: selbst
B: AUCH3A*
B: auch
B: UNSICHER2
B: [MG]
B: $PROD*
B: [MG]
B: soll
B: SOLL1*
B: ICH1
B: FÜR1*
B: für
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: LANGSAM1*
B: langsam
B: SPRECHEN2
B: sprechen
B: $INDEX1*
B: SCHWERHÖRIG1*
B: schwerhörig
B: SPRECHEN3
B: [MG]
B: Then he faced to the hard of hearing people and talked really fast, and I didn't understand anything anymore.
B: $ORAL^
B: ja
B: STIMMT1A
B: stimmt
B: ICH1*
B: ETWAS-NICHT-MITBEKOMMEN1^
B: NEIN3B^*
B: Then I put my foot down, I've had had enough.
B: TISCH1
B: tisch
B: HAUEN1^*
B: TISCH1
B: tisch
B: STOPP1
B: Then the hard of hearing people were angry with me.
B: $INDEX1*
B: SCHWERHÖRIG1
B: schwerhörig
B: ÄRGERN-SICH2
B: ärger
B: AUF-PERSON1*
B: There were three deaf people and five hard of hearing people in our class.
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: ||$NUM-EINER1A:3d
B: drei
B: SCHWERHÖRIG1||$NUM-EINER1A:3d
B: schwerhörig
B: $NUM-EINER1A:5||$NUM-EINER1A:3d
B: fünf
B: $NUM-EINER1A:5*||$NUM-EINER1A:3d*
B: The other two deaf people were weak and scared, but I didn't put up with that, I wanted to understand everything after all.
B: ICH2
B: NEIN2B*
B: BEIDE2A||$NUM-EINER1A:2
B: zwei
B: schwach
B: SCHWACH1
B: $INDEX1*
B: ANGST1
B: angst
B: ICH1
B: NEIN2B*
B: ICH1
B: ich
B: WOLLEN2
B: will
B: VERSTEHEN1
B: verstehen
B: What other reason would I have to even go there.
B: ICH1
B: IN1*
B: FÜR1*
B: für
B: WAS1A*
B: was
B: There was a lot of fighting, that's why it was a horrible time for me.
B: DISKUSSION1A
B: [MG]
B: DARUM1
B: darum
B: GRAUSAM5*
B: grausam
B: ZEIT5A*
B: zeit
B: FÜR1*
B: für
B: $GEST^
B: Yes, that was quite something with the deaf people.
B: SCHWERHÖRIG1
B: schwerhörig
B: $GEST-SKEPTISCH1^
B: [MG]
B: I vote for bringing the deaf and the hard of hearing together at an earlier age, when they are still young and not at such a late time, otherwise they are separated by their cultures from early on.
B: LIEBER1*
B: lieber
B: JETZT3*
B: jetzt
B: GLEICH8
B: gleich
B: INTEGRATION1
B: NICHT3A
B: nicht
B: SPÄTER3
B: später
B: $GEST^
B: INTEGRATION1
B: SCHON1B
B: schon
B: TRENNEN1B
B: [MG]
B: KULTUR1B*
B: kultur kultur
B: ANDERS1
B: anders
B: $GEST^
B: If one would start at an early age, they wouldn't know the difference.
B: KLEIN3*
B: klein
B: INTEGRATION1
B: [MG]
B: LUFT3B^*
B: They would think, that it is completely normal to be together in one group and that they would, of course, speak slower or sign with the deaf people.
B: ZUSAMMEN1A*
B: SELBSTVERSTÄNDLICH1B*
B: FÜR1*
B: für
B: MUSS1A*
B: muss
B: KLAR1B*
B: klar
B: ICH2
B: LANGSAM1
B: langsam
B: ODER1
B: oder
B: GEBÄRDEN1E
B: [MG]
B: KANN1*
B: kann
B: $GEST-OFF^*
C: It is interesting that you have problems in the hearing world and are strongly connected with the Deaf culture, but you still took part in the opera. Aren’t there also hearing people in the audience? What did that feel like?
B: Yes.
B: $GEST-NM-KOPFNICKEN1^
B: ja
B: Well, through/
B: ||DURCH2A
B: durch
B: Yes, I took part in an opera.
B: ICH1
B: oper
B: OPER1
B: EINTRETEN1A*
B: JA1A
B: stimmt
B: I was part of it because of my friend.
B: DURCH2B
B: freundin
B: FREUNDIN2
B: $INDEX1*
B: I wouldn't think of that myself. It was my friend who said, that I should tag along.
B: ICH1
B: $INDEX1*
B: oper
B: DENKEN1B
B: $INDEX1*
B: ICH1*
B: freundin
B: FREUNDIN2*
B: $INDEX1*
B: KOMMEN-AUFFORDERN1
B: [MG]
B: I often thought of hearing people as puppets, and that I should ignore them.
B: ICH1
B: STIMMT1A
B: stimmt
B: OFT1B
B: oft
B: DENKEN1B
B: denken
B: LASSEN1*
B: [MG]
B: ALLE1A
B: alle
B: HÖREND1A
B: hörend
B: WIE-FRAGE-VERGLEICH1
B: wie
B: ROBOTER1^
B: puppe
B: LASSEN1
B: They sit there like puppets and they don't understand anything of what I sign anyway.
B: PUPPE1
B: puppe
B: SEHEN-AUF2
B: [MG]
B: VERSTEHEN1
B: verstehen
B: NICHT3B
B: nicht
B: ICH1
B: GEBÄRDEN1A*
B: I really don't care whether they understand me or not, I just keep signing.
B: EGAL-SEIN1C^
B: [MG]
B: VERSTEHEN1*
B: verstehen
B: NICHT3B
B: GEBÄRDEN1A*
B: If I had to sing or if the audience consisted mainly of deaf people, I couldn't do that, I would run for the hills.
B: WENN1
B: wenn
B: ICH1
B: SINGEN1
B: singen
B: ODER1*
B: oder
B: ALLE1A
B: alle
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A*
B: ICH1
B: KANN1*
B: [MG]
B: ICH2
B: ABHAUEN1B
B: [MG]
B: No! That's why I usually avoided doing the moderation or some sort of presentation on stage.
B: ||ICH1*
B: DARUM1
B: darum
B: BIS-HEUTE2
B: bis
B: BÜHNE1
B: bühne
B: MODERATION1
B: moderator
B: ODER1
B: oder
B: VORTRAG1*
B: [MG]
B: ICH1
B: KANN1*
B: ABHAUEN1B
B: [MG]
B: I couldn't do that, because I would be the center of attention.
B: ||ICH1
B: ALLE2C
B: FADENKREUZ1
B: DA1*
B: da da da da
B: That's why I don't want to try it in the first place, I feel insecure in those scenarios.
B: ICH1
B: $GEST^
B: [MG] ob ob ob
B: ICH1
B: NEIN1B*
B: ABHAUEN1B
B: My husband is able to be on stage and it doesn't matter to him, because he tells himself that deaf people are also just people.
B: MEIN1
B: mein
B: mann
B: EHEMANN1
B: $INDEX1*
B: bühne
B: BÜHNE1
B: STEHEN1*
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: [MG]
B: SAGEN1
B: sagen
B: ALLE1A
B: alle
B: TAUB-GEHÖRLOS1A
B: [MG]
B: AUCH3A*
B: auch
B: MENSCH2*
B: mensch
B: I agree with him they are only human, too, but I couldn't do it anyway.
B: ICH1
B: STIMMT1A*
B: stimmt
B: MENSCH2*
B: mensch
B: [MG]
B: ICH1
B: NEIN1B*
B: I had no problem with signing in the choir in front of a hearing audience. That wasn't so bad.
B: hörend
B: HÖREND1A
B: ALLE1B
B: $GEST-NM^
B: [MG]
B: OPER1*
B: oper
B: GEBÄRDEN1E
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: That was really nice, yes, it was a nice time.
B: SCHÖN1A
B: schön
B: SCHÖN1A
B: schön
B: ZEIT5A*
B: zeit
C: That is great. That way you could try to allure the hearing people into the Deaf world, for example with a sign language class.
B: SCHÖN1A*
B: schön
B: Yes, that is the odd part about me: I love to give sign language classes.
B: $GEST-OFF^*
B: $NUM-EINER1A:1
B: eins
B: MERKWÜRDIG3
B: ICH1
B: gebärdenkurs
B: GEBÄRDEN1E
B: KURS1
B: GERN1
B: gern
B: ICH1
B: It is that way because I love to pass on my language to others.
B: GRUND4B*
B: grund
B: ICH1
B: WÜNSCHEN1B
B: wunsch
B: MEIN1*
B: PRODUZIEREN2^*
B: [MG]
B: ALLE2A
B: $GEST^
B: But I refuse to talk to them in spoken language.
B: ABER1*
B: aber
B: ICH1
B: FÜR1
B: für
B: $GEST-NM-SPRECHEN1^
B: [MG]
B: ICH1*
B: ABLEHNEN2
B: lehnt ab
B: $GEST^
B: No, I'm sorry.
B: NEIN2B*
B: TUT-MIR-LEID2*
B: tut mir leid
B: $GEST-OFF^
B: If they are in my class, they need to adjust to me.
B: KOMMEN2
B: kommen
B: MUSS1A
B: muss
B: anpassen
B: ANPASSEN1*
B: ICH1
B: $GEST-OFF^